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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
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    #1

    Hey Germdoc! Invasion!

    It is a book I just finished reading. The plot is that 3 billion years ago aliens injected a virus into whatever primitive organisms were on earth at the time. Ever hundred millenia or so the aliens activate the virus. It turns whatever its host is into an alien. If the aliens don't think the current dominant species has the right stuff, they throw another switch which kills off the hosts, hence the dinosaur mass extinction. Anyhoo, it gets activated in humans. It gets beaten when some viral experts realize it can't survive in high oxygen, so they induce it to come out of cells of infected people by giving them the common cold. Is this realistic at all? Or is it pseudo-science? The inducing the virus part, not the aliens part.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 21987
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Originally posted by crokett
    It is a book I just finished reading. The plot is that 3 billion years ago aliens injected a virus into whatever primitive organisms were on earth at the time. Ever hundred millenia or so the aliens activate the virus. It turns whatever its host is into an alien. If the aliens don't think the current dominant species has the right stuff, they throw another switch which kills off the hosts, hence the dinosaur mass extinction. Anyhoo, it gets activated in humans. It gets beaten when some viral experts realize it can't survive in high oxygen, so they induce it to come out of cells of infected people by giving them the common cold. Is this realistic at all? Or is it pseudo-science? The inducing the virus part, not the aliens part.
    I think if you look at the back flap of the book cover you'll read that it's Fiction.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
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    • germdoc
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 3567
      • Omaha, NE
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      #3
      We are unfortunately dealing with real germs that behave in a somewhat similar fashion, thanks to our bad habits, overreliance on antibiotics and technology, and general hubris.

      I don't read fiction like that, real life is much more interesting. Along those lines: the boox Influenza is really good about the 1918 epidemic, Mosquitoes is good, as is Pox (about syphilis). I have The Hot Zone and The Coming Epidemic but never read them. They're a little too sensationalistic.
      Jeff


      “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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      • Alex Franke
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 2641
        • Chapel Hill, NC
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        Originally posted by LCHIEN
        I think if you look at the back flap of the book cover you'll read that it's Fiction.
        What!?? That's not real??? Hmpf. I guess I better stop asking people to sneeze on me to keep my alien virus at bay.

        crokett, how did that author explain the common cold / high oxygen connection? Or am I missing the point?
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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          Alex, the idea was the cold virus induced the alien virus to come out of the cells and therefore be exposed to oxygen, which was toxic to it. I know oxygen is toxic (even to people) in high enough concentrations and I know that a loooong time ago there wasn't as much oxygen in atmosphere as there is now. So that part at least he got right. What I was wondering was the reaction between the viruses. I know the book is fiction, but hopefully it has at least some basis in science (alien viruses notwithstanding )

          Of course this also requires some suspension of believe that a culture advanced enough to send an advanced virus through space would overlook an obvious way to kill it.
          David

          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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          • Alex Franke
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 2641
            • Chapel Hill, NC
            • Ryobi BT3100

            #6
            Originally posted by crokett
            Alex, the idea was the cold virus induced the alien virus to come out of the cells and therefore be exposed to oxygen, which was toxic to it.
            Oooh -- I see... SF writers can really come up with some clever scenarios, can't they?

            He's obviously not a SF writer, but Michener used to include a page or so about the historical context of his fiction -- along the lines of "This part is historically accurate; this part is not." Seems like that kind of info would be nice with medical fiction or sf, too. Although it might take too much of the fantasy out of it...
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            while ( !( succeed = try() ) ) ;
            "Life is short, Art long, Occasion sudden and dangerous, Experience deceitful, and Judgment difficult." -Hippocrates

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            • ironhat
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              • Aug 2004
              • 2553
              • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
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              #7
              That book sounds like a follow-up by L. Ron Hubbard.
              Blessings,
              Chiz

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