The Times They Are A-Changin'

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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    The Times They Are A-Changin'

    My sister called to ask if these were decent specs on a new computer:

    2Gb DDR2 RAM
    Core 2 Duo 3.0Ghz
    256 MB graphics card (Ithink ATI)
    16x DVDRW
    ASUS Mobo

    Guy wants 700 for hardware, assembled. OS is not included, but he will install for free if she buys the license.

    I remember spending about that much on:
    CPU - AMD Athlon Thunderbird 850mhz
    RAM - 512MB
    Graphics - ATI All-in-Wonder w/TV Tuner - 32MB
    Ethernet - 10Mb
    DVD - 2x (reader, not writer)
    ASUS Motherboard

    I also remember spending just over 1K on

    CPU - Pentium 133
    RAM - 256MB
    Graphics - some cheap card
    Ethernet - what's that? I had a rockin' 33.6 modem, baby!
    DVD - HAHAHA! I can't remember if I even had a CD drive in it.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • Alex Franke
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 2641
    • Chapel Hill, NC
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    ... or TWICE that much on an Atari 800, 64k RAM, Epson MX-80, and Hayes 300 baud modem.

    Times they are a-changing indeed!
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    • Uncle Cracker
      The Full Monte
      • May 2007
      • 7091
      • Sunshine State
      • BT3000

      #3
      I remember spending $2800 on the first generation Compaq "Suitcase" portable. It was "loaded" with a 10MB hard drive. What an improvement over my IBM PC with double 5-1/4" floppies and NO hard drive...

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      • RayintheUK
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2003
        • 1792
        • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
        • Ryobi BT3000

        #4
        I paid £520 (around $750 then) for an black-only HP Deskjet+ printer when they first came out!

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        • LarryG
          The Full Monte
          • May 2004
          • 6693
          • Off The Back
          • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

          #5
          I once bought a 16MB -- note, that says MEGAbyte -- memory stick for $375. Why, you might ask, would I pay such a huge sum for such a piece? Because it was used, and $375 was exactly half the price of a new one. And no, it wasn't a premium price because I had some off-the-wall make/model of computer that no one had ever heard of. It was for a perfectly ordinary 486SX machine.

          My original Compaq Portable came with two floppy drives (5.25", 360KB each) and cost $1649. I soon added a 20MB Plus HardCard, a hard disk on an expansion card, that cost $700, or $35 per megabyte. If that same price ratio held true today, a 250GB drive would cost you a cool $437,500.
          Larry

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          • dkerfoot
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2004
            • 1094
            • Holland, Michigan
            • Craftsman 21829

            #6
            Yep - I upgraded from 4 sticks of 256k each to 4 1MB sticks for $200 so that I didn't have to run Windows 3 in "Real" mode. I think I still have those 256k SIPPs (SIMMs pith pins instead of card edges) around somewhere.


            What is the moral of the story? Put your money into real tools that will last a lifetime and stay on the trailing edge when dealing with technology.
            Doug Kerfoot
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            • Uncle Cracker
              The Full Monte
              • May 2007
              • 7091
              • Sunshine State
              • BT3000

              #7
              IIRC, one of the biggest spikes for memory pricing was when two of the three main chip manufacturing facilities in Japan went down at the same time. One was KO'd by a fire, but I don't remember the other problem... Just remember that memory was easily half the cost of the computer back then...

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              • JR
                The Full Monte
                • Feb 2004
                • 5633
                • Eugene, OR
                • BT3000

                #8
                MAC 512 KE with Imagewriter dot matrix printer. $2,500 using my BIL's university discount. Included AppleTalk 256 Kb LAN.

                The E was becuase it came with an external 800KB floppy drive in addition to the internal one.

                JR

                edit: Thinking about it now, I realize the internal floppy was 400 KB.
                Last edited by JR; 07-29-2008, 01:24 PM.
                JR

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                • MikeMcCoy
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 790
                  • Moncks Corner, SC, USA.
                  • Delta Contractor Saw

                  #9
                  I don't remember what it cost but back in the mid 80's, we used a TRS 80 from Radio Shack to keep our flight op records aboard ship. A whole 640k of floppy memory.

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                  • vaking
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1428
                    • Montclair, NJ, USA.
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                    #10
                    All true but I remember other things too. I remember paying 99 cents for a gallon of gasoline. I also remember that my first computer made less noise than a shopvac and did not need a water cooler. And now computers are consuming more energy than airlines and in my company an engineer that can keep data center cool is in highest demand.
                    Alex V

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                    • dkerfoot
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1094
                      • Holland, Michigan
                      • Craftsman 21829

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vaking
                      I also remember that my first computer made less noise than a shopvac
                      I remember back in '82 or '83 when floppy disk drives sounded like you were cutting rebar concrete with a dull circular saw. You could hear the clunking and grinding two doors down!
                      Doug Kerfoot
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                      • Schleeper
                        Established Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 299

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dkerfoot
                        I remember back in '82 or '83 when floppy disk drives sounded like you were cutting rebar concrete with a dull circular saw. You could hear the clunking and grinding two doors down!
                        And yet, it was still a lot quieter (and faster) than punching and compiling decks of punch cards. (And the disks took up less space!)
                        "I know it when I see it." (Justice Potter Stewart)

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                        • twistsol
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 2900
                          • Cottage Grove, MN, USA.
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                          #13
                          in the early 80's I worked for an Apple, Digital, Epson, Kaypro dealer as the service manager. Back then you could literally know everything about all the software available, and could tell what was wrong with most machines by the sounds they were or weren't making.

                          A correction: The E in the Mac 512E stood for enhanced because it had an 800K double sided floppy drive instead of the 400K single sided floppy drive used on the original 128K Mac and the first 512K Mac.
                          Chr's
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                          • JR
                            The Full Monte
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 5633
                            • Eugene, OR
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            Originally posted by twistsol
                            A correction: The E in the Mac 512E stood for enhanced because it had an 800K double sided floppy drive instead of the 400K single sided floppy drive used on the original 128K Mac and the first 512K Mac.
                            I guess you're right. Obviously my memory is fading after 20+ years! I think, though, that I might have had an external 400KB drive. External 800Ks might not have been available. Who knows, it's ancient history.

                            JR
                            JR

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                            • Russianwolf
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3152
                              • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
                              • One of them there Toy saws

                              #15
                              I remember buying single sided floppies and converting them to dual sided with a hole punch.
                              Mike
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