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  • Ed62
    The Full Monte
    • Oct 2006
    • 6021
    • NW Indiana
    • BT3K

    #1

    A billion (interesting)

    I received an e-mail that was political, so I'll only post a small part of it. Here it is (I didn't do the math):

    A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,
    But one advertising agency did a good job of
    Putting that figure into some perspective in
    One of its releases.


    A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

    B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

    C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were
    Living in the Stone Age.

    D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

    Ed
    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

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  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22053
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Putting it in terms of things long past has little meaning to me because I still have little concept of how long ago it was.
    I am in engineering perticularly electronics and computers and I do have a have a good feel for both very large and very small numbers.

    even more interesting is that the meaning of Billion is quite ambiguous in global usage:

    http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifbillionaukview.shtml

    To most Americans a billion is a thousand million (10^9) but to much of the world, a billion is a million million (10^12) which to americans is a trillion.
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 03-22-2008, 12:34 PM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
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    • jonmulzer
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 946
      • Indianapolis, IN

      #3
      That is quite interesting Loring. I was never aware of that. So when the British hear us talk about our National Debt being almost 10 Trillion they think it is a lot worse than it actually is (as if it were not bad enough.....).
      "A fine beer may be judged with just one sip, but it is better to be thoroughly sure"

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      • LCHIEN
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        • Dec 2002
        • 22053
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        Originally posted by jonmulzer
        That is quite interesting Loring. I was never aware of that. So when the British hear us talk about our National Debt being almost 10 Trillion they think it is a lot worse than it actually is (as if it were not bad enough.....).
        Yep! .
        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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        • germdoc
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 3567
          • Omaha, NE
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          #5
          Makes me think of Bill Gates...

          http://evan.snew.com/ecgi/gates.cgi?...20755447180803

          and

          http://www.templetons.com/brad/billg.html

          Looked at another way--if Bill Gates spent $1 million a day it would take him 68 YEARS to spend all of his wealth.

          Retirement strategy #4: Persuade Bill Gates to spare me a million--he'd never miss it...
          Jeff


          “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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          • cabinetman
            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
            • Jun 2006
            • 15216
            • So. Florida
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            #6

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            Motor Trend - Tech Tidbits - 04/08

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            • Sid
              Established Member
              • Apr 2004
              • 139
              • Bloomington, IL, USA.
              • Craftsman 22124

              #7
              Close, but . . .

              I think there are errors in the calculations and/or interpretations:

              1,000,000,000(sec) / 60(sec/min) / 60(min/hr) / 24(hr/day) / 365.25 (day/yr) = 31.69 years ago = 1976 (but 1959 would be right if it were calculated 17 years ago)

              Similarly 1 billion minutes = 1901.3 years ago = late 106 AD (Jesus didn't live on earth that long)

              And 1 billion hr = 114 thousand years ago (yes, in the stone age.)

              And 1 billion days = 2.74 million years ago (not prior to bipedal hominids: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus)

              Sid

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              • LCHIEN
                Super Moderator
                • Dec 2002
                • 22053
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                bravo, sid, you're a man of my way of thinking. I was thinking about checking those numbers...

                If you don't do the math you should at least check it.
                Last edited by LCHIEN; 03-22-2008, 03:05 PM.
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
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                • cabinetman
                  Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                  • Jun 2006
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                  #9
                  Ed - This should be a lesson to you to check your facts. You should know by now that there will always be someone that's going to.
                  .

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                  • jonmulzer
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 946
                    • Indianapolis, IN

                    #10
                    Interesting explanation Cabinetman, but I had always heard and read that the googol received its name because the person who thought of it looked to his infant son and ask what to name it. The child was just starting on jibberish and replied "googol". I have no idea which explanation is correct, if either of them are in fact. It just adds more color to the story.
                    "A fine beer may be judged with just one sip, but it is better to be thoroughly sure"

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                    • Ed62
                      The Full Monte
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6021
                      • NW Indiana
                      • BT3K

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cabinetman
                      Ed - This should be a lesson to you to check your facts. You should know by now that there will always be someone that's going to.
                      .
                      If you noticed in the original post, I said I didn't do the math. These type of things are typically not correct, but I thought it was interesting, nontheless. A billion is a lot, no matter where you are.

                      Ed
                      Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                      For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                      • LCHIEN
                        Super Moderator
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 22053
                        • Katy, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 vintage 1999

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ed62
                        If you noticed in the original post, I said I didn't do the math. These type of things are typically not correct, but I thought it was interesting, nontheless. A billion is a lot, no matter where you are.

                        Ed
                        personally, spreading incorrect facts, is kind of, well, incorrect.
                        Loring in Katy, TX USA
                        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                        • cwithboat
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by germdoc


                          Looked at another way--if Bill Gates spent $1 million a day it would take him 68 YEARS to spend all of his wealth.

                          Retirement strategy #4: Persuade Bill Gates to spare me a million--he'd never miss it...
                          Actually, as much as I used to trash him, he is true to his word. The Gates Foundation must be giving away much more than a million a day (no fact checking here). Bill and Melissa are spending it on things slightly more important than our retirement (or at least mine). 9.4 Billion on Health.
                          http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Globa...?showYear=2008
                          regards,
                          Charlie
                          A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
                          Rudyard Kipling

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