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  • p8ntblr
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 921
    • So Cal
    • Craftsman 22114

    #1

    Drilling through walls

    What do you guys do to ensure you don't go through an electrical, plumbing, etc line when drilling through walls. I have a non-contact tester I use for electrical but sometimes the plaster is too thick and it doesn't quite detect it.
    -Paul
  • Uncle Cracker
    The Full Monte
    • May 2007
    • 7091
    • Sunshine State
    • BT3000

    #2
    I have a slick little sneeker-peeker (kind of like an endoscope) that will let me peek inside a wall (only straight ahead, darn it), so all I do is try to find a stud space and drill a hole midway between the studs (or wherever I need it, really) just through the drywall. In my house, anyway, the wiring is tight to the studs, although the plumbing ain't. Then I use the peeker to look inside to see what's ahead.

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    • MikeMcCoy
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2004
      • 790
      • Moncks Corner, SC, USA.
      • Delta Contractor Saw

      #3
      If I ever have any doubt, I just remove some drywall since it's a lot easier to patch than a pipe. I'm fairly lucky in the house I just bought since the builder took pictures during every phase so I have a CD to refer to.

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      • cabinetman
        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
        • Jun 2006
        • 15216
        • So. Florida
        • Delta

        #4
        There are some very elaborate "wall sensors" like this stud/metal finder.
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        • Tom Slick
          Veteran Member
          • May 2005
          • 2913
          • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
          • sears BT3 clone

          #5
          drill a small hole just deep enough to go through the plaster/drywall, then poke a wire or long screwdriver though the hole and see if it goes deep enough to correspond to the wall thickness. if it does then you know that at least you aren't drilling directly into a wire or pipe. it's a blind man's sneeker-peeker
          Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 21868
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            Originally posted by Tom Slick
            drill a small hole just deep enough to go through the plaster/drywall, then poke a wire or long screwdriver though the hole and see if it goes deep enough to correspond to the wall thickness. if it does then you know that at least you aren't drilling directly into a wire or pipe. it's a blind man's sneeker-peeker
            that's what I would do ... use a metal rod once you drill threough the near wall, the rod you poke by hand to see if its medium soft (like wire insulation) or metallic (like a pipe). or sounding board-like (more plaster wall) Then drill if its clear to the other plaster. The electrical sensing detectors can be useful before drilling to determine if there's any power wires in there. Obviously checking around the area for outlets, switches, water outlets etc. will help, too.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
            BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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            • RayintheUK
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              • Sep 2003
              • 1792
              • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              Originally posted by cabinetman
              There are some very elaborate "wall sensors" ......
              There sure are - my Bosch D-Tect 100 is quite "elaborate" but never misses.

              Ray.
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              • LinuxRandal
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 4890
                • Independence, MO, USA.
                • bt3100

                #8
                Why my xray vision, of course!
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                • chopnhack
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3779
                  • Florida
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #9
                  Most wiring and plumbing follow a logical routing, if you have access to your attic area a quick crawl can orient you to what's behind your walls. Luckily, I too took many photos when I remodeled. Hope you find what your looking for!
                  I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                  • p8ntblr
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 921
                    • So Cal
                    • Craftsman 22114

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tom Slick
                    drill a small hole just deep enough to go through the plaster/drywall, then poke a wire or long screwdriver though the hole and see if it goes deep enough to correspond to the wall thickness. if it does then you know that at least you aren't drilling directly into a wire or pipe. it's a blind man's sneeker-peeker
                    That's what I do right now but I have to be extra careful because it's an old house with lath and plaster walls. So I have to put alot more pressure on the drill to go through the lath (as opposed to just drilling through drywall) but not enough so I go any farther. I'm probably paranoid but I keep imagining going through some romex and lighting myself up like a xmas tree. My stud finder also doesn't seem to work so well with this type of wall.

                    Originally posted by RayintheUK
                    There sure are - my Bosch D-Tect 100 is quite "elaborate" but never misses.

                    Ray.
                    That's a cool looking tool there Ray. Do you know if it works through lath and plaster walls as well? How much does it run for and where did you get it.
                    -Paul

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                    • Ed62
                      The Full Monte
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6021
                      • NW Indiana
                      • BT3K

                      #11
                      I did a search for Ray's toy. I don't think it's available in the U.S., but I could be wrong. I found a bunch of places where you could buy it in Europe.

                      Ed
                      Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                      For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                      • RayintheUK
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 1792
                        • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
                        • Ryobi BT3000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by p8ntblr
                        That's a cool looking tool there Ray. Do you know if it works through lath and plaster walls as well? How much does it run for and where did you get it.
                        I've found a .pdf file which gives comprehensive info on the scanner. I've uploaded it to my site, so you can get it here if it's of interest. I've used it successfully on lath and plaster walls and ceilings. It wasn't cheap, around £500 as I recall.

                        I've no knowledge of any US outlets - sorry - but at least you've got more info to consider now.

                        Ray.
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                        • Tequila
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 684
                          • King of Prussia, PA, USA.

                          #13
                          Along with all the other advice, I usually mark my drill bit with tape at about 3/4" from the point. That lets me know when it's time to stop drilling and start poking around to look for pipes & wires.
                          -Joe

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