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  • pierhogunn
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 1567
    • Harrisburg, NC, USA.

    #1

    Lost a dear friend

    Well, I have to admit this, but it looks like my trusty, been everywhere with me cordless drill and her batteries have gone wandering.

    Any suggestions

    trying to keep under $150
    It's Like I've always said, it's amazing what an agnostic can't do if he dosent know whether he believes in anything or not

    Monty Python's Flying Circus

    Dan in Harrisburg, NC
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 21981
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    If you don't have an impact drill already, this Craftsman 19.2V combo will give you one at a very reasonable price (< $100) for two pieces with common batteries
    http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=34556
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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    • cork58
      Established Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 365
      • Wasilla, AK, USA.
      • BT3000

      #3
      Drill

      If you care to spend more.

      I was talking to our Dewalt rep just last night and he said the new 18v tools are comming out and most dealers are cutting the price on last years models by 50%. A 10 piece set would be around twice what you want to spend but you will be getting alot more for your dollar.

      The new tools are lighter and very well balanced. Unlike the ones on the shelf today. I didn't buy the complete set this year because I knew this would happen! I did buy the impact driver though. I just couldn't wait after seeing it. In Alaska right now you can get the complete kit for $300.00. I expect the price to go down alot in the next 3 weeks. OH the great thing they did was make sure the new battery will fit the older stuff! I was really impressed with the new line but will get the older version new at half price or better. The dealers are being very slow in putting the new sutff out because of inventory which he didn't like. Duh. You may go to your local guy and make an offer, you might be suprised of what he will do.

      Just my thoughts.
      Cork,

      Dare to dream and dare to fail.

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      • cabinetman
        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
        • Jun 2006
        • 15216
        • So. Florida
        • Delta

        #4
        Originally posted by pierhogunn
        Well, I have to admit this, but it looks like my trusty, been everywhere with me cordless drill and her batteries have gone wandering.

        Any suggestions

        trying to keep under $150

        See what you get for calling your drill a "HER". This time of the year "Christmas", there are all kinds of sales and promotions. Just keep your eye out (not literally). Just keep in mind some of the details you would like in the tool. Be wary of the 3 - 4 hr charge models, they suck. Get more than one battery, and some of these multi-tool deals that use the same battery are pretty cool.
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        • eccentrictinkerer
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 669
          • Minneapolis, MN
          • BT-3000, 21829

          #5
          I'm a Panasonic guy. I use the 12 volt version of the drill, impact driver and saw everyday. They are light-weight and powerful. Spendy, though.

          When I started my handyman business, two contractor friends told me this was the way to go. I'm extremely happy.

          The new Makita drill and impact driver combo look tempting, though. Li-ion batteries are the way of the future. Hope they get a saw soon.
          You might think I haven't contributed much to the world, but a large number
          of the warning labels on tools can be traced back to things I've done...

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          • pierhogunn
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 1567
            • Harrisburg, NC, USA.

            #6
            I've seen several people sing the praises of the impact driver, why?
            It's Like I've always said, it's amazing what an agnostic can't do if he dosent know whether he believes in anything or not

            Monty Python's Flying Circus

            Dan in Harrisburg, NC

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            • LCHIEN
              Super Moderator
              • Dec 2002
              • 21981
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              Impact driver

              re: impact driver

              its totally amazing if you use one.
              Basically the principle (from wikipedia) is
              In operation, a rotating mass (the hammer) is accelerated by the motor, storing energy, then suddenly connected to the output shaft (the anvil), creating a high-torque impact. The hammer mechanism is designed such that after delivering the impact, the hammer is again allowed to spin freely, and does not stay locked. With this design, the only reaction force applied to the body of the tool is the motor accelerating the hammer, and thus the operator feels very little torque, even though a very high peak torque is delivered to the socket. This is similar to a conventional hammer, where the user applies a small, constant force to swing the hammer, which generates a very large impulse when the hammer strikes an object. Energy is stored over time, allowing a very strong, but short output impulse to be generated from a relatively weak, but constant input force. The hammer design requires a certain minimum torque before the hammer is allowed to spin separately from the anvil, causing the tool to stop hammering and instead smoothly drive the fastener if only low torque is needed, rapidly installing/removing the fastener.

              The net is that it will drive screws, nuts, bolts with a LOT of driving torque but not the torque that wrenches your arm or tends to break the bolt or cam out of a phillips bit. The internal impact mechanism concentrates the force and the reaction forces in the hammer and anvil mechanism. At low torque it simply spins rapidly seating the fastener, then switches to impact mode when higher torque is required.

              The cordless electric impact drivers generally have 1/4" hex sockets as the driving connection and you can put in any screwdriver bits, or socket adapters.

              I used to refuse to have any cordless tools except a drill driver... now I have the drill driver and a impact driver, and for really driving big lag screws or breaking bolts loose and such the impact driver gets the call.
              Try one, the light will come on!
              Last edited by LCHIEN; 12-07-2007, 06:47 AM.
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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              • Zenaca
                Established Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 116
                • Idaho

                #8
                Check out the Milwaukee at lowes for $129 . It is about the same size as the Bosch Impactor . http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...-22&lpage=none

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                • Uncle Cracker
                  The Full Monte
                  • May 2007
                  • 7091
                  • Sunshine State
                  • BT3000

                  #9
                  Remember that, although these impact drivers are great for their intended purpose, they are not meant to be used for drilling. You'll still need a drill if you get one.

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                  • eccentrictinkerer
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 669
                    • Minneapolis, MN
                    • BT-3000, 21829

                    #10
                    Re: Impact Drivers

                    When driving hundreds of deck screws, you'll notice that your wrist gets sore, really sore. That's because your wrist has to counteract the twisting force applied to the screw.

                    When you use the impact driver that force is cut to a small fraction of that of a drill-driver.

                    Plus, it's just great to own cool tools!
                    You might think I haven't contributed much to the world, but a large number
                    of the warning labels on tools can be traced back to things I've done...

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                    • LCHIEN
                      Super Moderator
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 21981
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
                      Remember that, although these impact drivers are great for their intended purpose, they are not meant to be used for drilling. You'll still need a drill if you get one.
                      yes, i should have said that. Early in this thread I recommended buying the Craftsman combo drill-driver and impact driver set for $99. Has a 19.2V full function drill driver and a impact driver, 2 batts, 1 fast charger for that price. Actually made by Ryobi for Sears Craftsman. If you don't like cases, you'll love this set - no case.
                      Last edited by LCHIEN; 12-07-2007, 07:41 AM.
                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                      • Cheeky
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 862
                        • westchester cty, new york
                        • Ridgid TS2400LS

                        #12
                        The Ridgid 18V drill is $99 at HD (down from $150). I have one (one of too many) and registered it for Ridgid's Lifetime Service Agreement.....so if the batteries fail, or the drill fails, they will fix or replace the respective item for life.

                        very good drill IMO

                        here's a nice deal, on the cheap (39.99), for a 19.2v Craftsman drill

                        one other simple thing about impact drivers: they don't strip screwheads, even when you don't pilot!

                        if you want to try one, go to a Home Depot with a Hilti rep, and try one. It's probably the most fun tool IMO. Drilling 3" srews is so dang fun!

                        Originally posted by Zenaca
                        Check out the Milwaukee at lowes for $129 . It is about the same size as the Bosch Impactor . http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...-22&lpage=none
                        the Bosch PS-20 is basically the same thing as this, for $30 less (more if you consider tax at lowes). and the PS-40 for $30 (less if you consider tax, blows both of them out of the water.....800lbs of torque in that lil puppy!
                        Last edited by Cheeky; 12-07-2007, 08:05 AM.
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