Best Non-Lethal Weapon

[Hellrazor]

Unless Jeffery's employees are psychologically screened, trained to an extremely high skill level with a company purchased or approved firearm and required to maintain that skill level through regular firearms practice at a company approved range under the eye of a company approved expert; Jeffery would have to be crazy to authorize employees to act under arms as a representative of the company.

I've been at the range when the local finest show up to practice. I had one call me crazy when I was proofing reloads to see which one I was going use. Why? Because I wasn't happy shooting 1.5" @100 yards with a scoped rifle. If my life depending on him snipering someone with the the tricked out AR15 he had...

Assuming big brother is going to always be there for you is foolish.

[Warren]

What I'm saying is that this "brilliant" employee opened his mouth when he should have kept it closed. He has now placed Jeffery in the position of having to come up with a policy or losing a client. Jeffery's loyalty should be to the person who's money he takes. If you can't do the job, don't take the money, move on.

He no longer has the, weak though it would be in court, ability to state that he and the company was not aware that an employee was armed while working. This isn't about the employee, it's about the health of the company.

If Jeffery feels that the company's employees should now be armed, he has to take the steps to minimize exposure with regards to another "Brilliant" employee busting a cap on someone at the wrong time. The employee will have little exposure and have left the company fully exposed in a suit.

An employee is free to terminate employment is he is unhappy with work rules and conditions. He is not free to endanger the fiscal health of the company and the jobs of the other employees. "Brilliant" has opened a can of worms with his admission.

"Brilliant" has now placed the Jeffery in the unenviable position losing the option of writing a policy and putting in place the necessary training and procedures to allow employees to go armed if necessary. Jeffery has been placed, by this doofus, in the position of having to ban lethal weapons altogether and find a non-lethal alternative in order to keep the client's business.

If it were my company, "Brilliant" would have many hours of leisure time to peruse the want ads for work. Not for what he did, but for being stupid enough to announce it. He may be brilliant, but he lacks common sense. "Brilliant" should either ride for the brand or get his saddle and move on.

Two things I absolutely wouldn't tolerate from my employees and subordinates were disloyalty and stupidity. Ignorance I can fix, stupid is forever. If a person takes my money, he follows my instructions.

Enough said on the topic from me, I'm beginning to beat a dead horse and I'm not getting any further up the trail.

[Warren]

Okay, I lied. One last observation.

Mike, if the coppers you observed were using AR15's for counter sniper work your local department is sadly prepared. You didn't state if these guys were in fact the department's counter-snipers or just part of a response team. Counter-snipers usually do not work out at public ranges as there usually isn't enough property for their ranging requirements.

At the time I retired our counter snipers used custom fitted, 223's and work out regularly on a military range, shooting at distances much longer than 100 yards. They are basically a Remington with floating barrel and custom fit. Basically the same weapon used by the Secret Service for their counter-sniper work.It sounds as though your county is sadly unprepared for a critical situation if their top shots are relegated to AR15's. Properly fitted they are good suppression and assault weapons, not for surgical work. Although I've seen them used very accurately by good shooters at long range.

Last word from me, I promise.

[Hellrazor]

Warren,

This isn't worth an arguement, just idle banter. I just don't believe in making rules for the sake of making them. Half of our laws are handled like that already and its pathetic.

It was a standard AR style, with carry handle and a scope.. I am not sure what make/model it actually was. I brushed him off after his comments and ignored him. He was wearing a tactical reponse jumpsuite and along with his shield. I am not much for hillbilly sharp shooters (the ones who are happy they can hit a beer case @100 yards).