I feel dirty today

[Pappy]

I have absolutely no problem with the fact that inmates seem to have "special" treatments for other inmates that harm children.

My oldest did some time on drug charges both at the federal and state levels. The stories you hear are sometimes exagurated, but not by much. The other inmate that has a problem is on who's crime involved violence against his mother. He said guards get busy with other things at times and don't see what is happening.

Gary, hopefully you can rest easy knowing the scum bag won't be free for a long time!

[68KANE]

IMO the internet is breeding and facilitating these kinds of people. The ease of finding pornography on the internet has made it so that people that would have been afraid of being seen purchasing it or going to 'peep shows' aren't deterred from looking at or purchasing porn. Also, I thought studies had shown that people (in general) that constantly look at porn become desensitized and in some cases need to escalate the material they're looking at to acheive the same affect.

Keep in mind that I'm not advocating censorship of the internet but rather just offering an opinion as to why dirtbags like this seem to be coming out of the woodwork. Also, judging from the clothes kids are wearing these days, society seems to want children to grow up faster and parents aren't doing their **** jobs at being a parent first and the kid's friend second.

I will keep you and the victim(s) in my prayers.

[gary]

Thought I'd post the results from all this. Min 85% of 24 years and he's yet to be tried for the rape itself.

LEXINGTON

TERM IS 24 YEARS IN SEX-TRANSIT CASE

William Michael Cook, 31, was sentenced yesterday to more than 24 years in prison for transporting a 14-year-old girl from Ohio to Scott County to have sex with her. Cook, of Lucasville, Ohio, was found guilty by a federal jury in March of transporting a minor across state lines with the intent to engage in criminal sexual conduct. The victim, now 16, testified that Cook took her and Cook's own daughter to Kentucky and told them they were going to go to a mall. Instead, Cook took her to the Econo Lodge in Georgetown, where he raped her. Cook was sentenced in U.S. District Court to 292 months in prison. He must serve 85 percent of that sentence.

[brecklundin]

gary,

I am new here but wanted to stick my nose in here, because well, been there and will live there until I die...as difficult as you think things were on the jurors...the child has worse to come and to live with for the rest of the childs life.

I say this as someone who has had to live with it for over 40 years now. But, I can say this...this child will thank you forever just for caring enough to take this so very seriously.

So when you feel "dirty" because of this, remeber that doing so given the ratbastage who did it control over your life. Just think of how much you helped this innocent child. Know you helped in a very big way by showing that child there are people who care and the child can eventually over time begin to feel safe again. As someone who never had that person step up and help, I know how much happier my life would have been had there been someone to help.

There is much more that could be said, but all I wanted to pass along is you did maybe the biggest kindness you have ever done. Don't feel sad and sorry for yourself that is selfish, feel proud you diid what had to be done and protected not only that child but also future victims of this eveil being.

[cabinetman]

So when you feel "dirty" because of this, remeber that doing so given the ratbastage who did it control over your life. Just think of how much you helped this innocent child. Know you helped in a very big way by showing that child there are people who care and the child can eventually over time begin to feel safe again. As someone who never had that person step up and help, I know how much happier my life would have been had there been someone to help.

Having the ability to create punishment can feel good for the soul. Instead of reading about it or hearing about the case on the news, you had the opprotunity to judge the case and help impose punishment. Way to go!

The punishment is supposed to deter the crime. We see more of this on a daily basis. When I was in high school, I can't remember anyone even thinking about bringing a gun to school. In fact, I don't remember even adult/child sex crimes being publicized. Maybe in today's society more come forward.

I'm appalled at the rights inmates think they are entitled to. If I had my way, I would require public punishment out in the open. The death penalty could be a public beating with sticks, bats or anything else until the varmit is dead. They could sell tickets for anyone wanting to deliver some punishment. The proceeds could go to the victim. Hey, I can see pay-per-view helping out a lot. I know it sounds uncivilized, but so was the crime.
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[Adele]

Gary,

My thoughts and prayers are with you. Like others have said I also will be praying for that poor child there innocents has been taken away and you can never get that back. Hopefully they will get good counsiling and knowing that the man is in prison will help. As for you feeling "dirty" you did what needed done and I am sorry you had to go through such a horrible ordeal. Please seek council from others and know that we here at bt3 are praying for you.

Adele

[Bruce Cohen]

My father-in-law, until he retired, was a court officer in both the Brooklyn criminal and family court systems.

He had to get a transfer to a more clerical position after his stint in family court, (16 year olds and under and family disputes for the most part, are tried there.) Well, as in all things political, most judges are sitting in repayment of political favors, and Family court seems to get an abundance of "liberial" women (no disrespect to the female gender meant).

He told me there were times that if he was allowed to be armed (all court offers in NY can't carry in open court). He would have first shot the judge, and then the perp, and/or the parents.

His solution was to place all 2nd offenders (the heck the the three strike rule) in a part of a state where no one lives, Alaska maybe?, feed them well, take good care of them and then use them for spare parts for TRANSPLANTS.

Now that's giving something back to society!!!

Bruce

Not in a very forgiving mood today.

[Hellrazor]

Not in a very forgiving mood today.

I am not in a forgiving mood anyday when its relates to crap like that. Our system is broken and groups like the ACLU helped it happen. People trying to rationalize why someone did something makes me want to puke too.

Hopefully he serves every second of his sentence.

[LinuxRandal]

Hopefully he serves every second of his sentence.

In reality, since this was done to a child, he won't make it in prison.

[brecklundin]

To those who are "not in a forgiving mood" I have one question. Has this ever happened to you personally? If not they why do you feel you should be the one to grant or not grant forgiveness? And by to you I do not mean are you the parent or relative if a child who has been assulted sexually. I mean is it YOU who has been assulted.

I ask this not to harangue but rather to maybe spark some introspection. It is a crime committed on the child not you and and forgiveness needs to be at the sole behest of the child at some point in time. Putting these people in prison is fine and just...perhaps even the death penalty for this and rape of another adult human being. But to sit back and say you somehow feel the need for vengeance only creates more fear and anger in the child. It prevents the child from even coming forward because they fear your anger will somehow be directed at them.

Like I posted early I have been through this personally. I KNOW what this child is going to face and have to deal with eventually. The only and best thing any adults around these things can do is offer a calm rational and loving affection and protection. The child needs to re-learn the world is not an evil place where everyone is looking to cause harm. The child needs to know there are safe places, home around friends, etc...but if everyone is "out for blood" exactly where is that place and where is the true concern for the child?

If you seek vengeance for such vile humans, you seek it for yourself and not the child.

I am dead serious here...take a moment to think about your motives. Maybe a long moment...grow somewhat and consider what such expressions will show another human who has been violated in this way. If you cannot accept that it's not your personal purview to seek vengeance then you need to reflect further. You are not the victim here but by expressing such violent anger you further make any child in this situation a victim of even more violence.

Pretty much all I will say about his topic beyond there are some obvious and genuine expressions of caring here...but they are a bit misdirected and ill considered at time.

I will add one final comment. Eventually the child MUST learn to let go of what could become a consuming anger that will cause these events to rule the child's life. If one never lets go and learns to forgive what has happened it is never possible to heal yourself. Sounds trite and not wxactly as blood thirsty as some might prefer, but again, you never have been on our side of the fence or walked in our shoes.

[dlminehart]

Eloquently put, brecklundin. I have to agree that some of the vengeful posts here really did sound scary, and fear of such people's wrath is more likely to deter a victim from seeking help than to deter a sick molester from his or her predations.

[gwyneth]

I ask this not to harangue but rather to maybe spark some introspection. It is a crime committed on the child not you and and forgiveness needs to be at the sole behest of the child at some point in time. Putting these people in prison is fine and just...perhaps even the death penalty for this and rape of another adult human being. But to sit back and say you somehow feel the need for vengeance only creates more fear and anger in the child. It prevents the child from even coming forward because they fear your anger will somehow be directed at them.

Beautifully expressed.

There is another problem created by societal vengeance: the law of unintended consequences. The steeper the penalty, theoretically, the more it deters. But at the far end of the bell curve this increases the chances that the abuser will kill the victim, thinking to avoid the consequences of the abuse crime and figuring that if caught anyway, the punishment for the homicide wouldn't be that much worse than for the abuse.

The fact that rational people with consciences abhor that sociopathic reasoning does not mean that it does not exist.

[Hellrazor]

To those who are "not in a forgiving mood" I have one question. Has this ever happened to you personally?

I've worked for a school district for over 16 years. I've seen and heard it all. I no absolutely no tolerance for crap like this and nothing you or anyone else says will change it. No arguement you or any else puts forth will change what happened either. Do the crime and do the time.

If you ask me if I believe in the death penalty, I will assume you will be very unhappy with the answer too. Our wimped out society today is the exact reason things are as screwed up as they are.

[Hellrazor]

Eloquently put, brecklundin. I have to agree that some of the vengeful posts here really did sound scary, and fear of such people's wrath is more likely to deter a victim from seeking help than to deter a sick molester from his or her predations.

I don't even know where to start after reading that. But it doesn't surprise me its a comment from california. All we are missing is "His dog ran away when he was 5 and his dad was a drunk." defense.

[gary]

Gentle reminder that we're all friends here and are all part of the same BT3 family.

Lets keep that foremost in our thoughts.....