Young people and driving

[footprintsinconc]

cabinetman,

that type of education would really be useful. it would teach you to be intune with the physics of driving. but guessing from the material covered, i'd guess that it would also cost an arm and leg?

where would i go to find if they have an education program like that here in phx, az?

[scorrpio]

Now, the sixty-four dollar question: How do you keep an unlicensed driver from getting behind the wheel? Answer that and you've pretty well solved problem.

I somehow envision a tech solution. We already have Lo-Jack, built-in GPS, OnStar - services where a car is essentially constantly 'on the network'. As things go on, usage of such systems will spread. Yes, this very much can amount to surveilance by 'you know who', but as number of licence plate scanning cameras over the roads goes up, this is inevitable.
Next logical step: biometrics. Consider a car where a retinal scan or fingerprint read is done on person behind the wheel. It is matched to a central database. Unless the person is authorized to drive this vehicle (that is, ownership, license etc all check out), car ain't going anywhere.
Licences are thus enforced - no license, no driving. Parental control - no 'borrowing' dad's keys unless dad set permissions.
This will eventually happen.

[cabinetman]

cabinetman,

that type of education would really be useful. it would teach you to be intune with the physics of driving. but guessing from the material covered, i'd guess that it would also cost an arm and leg?

where would i go to find if they have an education program like that here in phx, az?

I can list the sites for club activity in your area, each has its own membership requirements. You may have to navigate the sites to isolate either "Drivers Education", or "Drivers School".

BMWCCA (BMW Car Club of America)
http://www.roadrunnerbmw.org/

PCA (Porsche Club of America)
http://az.pca.org/

POC (Porsche Owners Club)
http://www.porscheclub.com/

There are other marques that maintain enthusiast clubs that may hold driver education events that you could search.

[Thalermade]

Wow where do I start? Passing the test with a perfect score does not provide a second of usable, on the road driving experience.
My son earned his drivers license this past July.
He is doing OK. I try to ride with him monthly. I am surprised at the bad habits he picks up from month to month. Still daily, weekly, monthly driving builds up his experience. It ain't easy for dad, believe me. snow this week

In Ohio, a 15and 1/2 year old can gets their temps to start practicing driving.

Drivers education? Since here it is run by private industry, the classwork was pretty much taught so the kids pass, not necessarily learn.
Road work was decent and his teacher wrote a couple good notes on things to work on.
But in the end, the road worked focused on the drivers test course. Oh yeah, you could rent the drivers ed car so the student could more easily pass the test. There were marks on the front and back windows to make it easy to line up the car with the obstacle flags.

I think that parents may need to attend classes on "how to teach their kids to drive". I certainly learned a lot in my experience teaching my son.

All in all, more young people, more young people with cars, more people driving cars. Remember when going to town was a big event? (I grew up in a rural area)
I asked an EMT if the percentage of teenage deaths has gone up dramatically over the years. He replied that you just notice it more when
your kids are in that age frame.

The worries about our kids grow every bit as fast as our kids do.

Be safe folks.
Russ

[LCHIEN]

...I think that parents may need to attend classes on "how to teach their kids to drive". I certainly learned a lot in my experience teaching my son.

...

The worries about our kids grow every bit as fast as our kids do.

Be safe folks.
Russ

I've seen other adults drive. The thought of some of them teaching their kids to drive the same way they drive scares the CR^P out of me.