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  • thiggy
    Established Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 229
    • Alabama.
    • Craftsman Contractor

    #1

    Security Chain

    I have some mowing equipment stored at my rural farm which is usually unoccupied and I wish to help deter theft. My plan is to thread a hardened security chain through the various tractors and mowers. How can I be assured that chain I purchase cannot be cut with usual tools? There is no electricity where the items are stored, which limits the use of power tools. Is hardened chain bolt cutter proof? The more expensive chain that I see have square links. What purpose does that serve?
    Last edited by thiggy; 06-06-2006, 10:29 AM.
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  • Russianwolf
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    • Jan 2004
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    • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
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    #2
    I would say that if it's in an area where a potential theif could have an hour uninterupted, he will get through anything you put on it. A torch will cut through any chain inside of 30 minutes.
    Mike
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    • WayneJ
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 785
      • Elmwood Park, New Jersey, USA.

      #3
      If a bank vault won't stop a theif, how do you expect a chain orcable will do the job? Like (wolf) said a tourch will geter done.
      Wayne
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      • Tequila
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 684
        • King of Prussia, PA, USA.

        #4
        Unfortunately if it's unoccupied, there's very little that will deter a determined thief. Chains, padlocks, etc are just going to remind people to be honest. And just because there's no electricity doesn't mean there's no power. A 24v or 36V sawzall will probably get through the chain without a battery change.
        -Joe

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        • mschrank
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2004
          • 1130
          • Hood River, OR, USA.
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          #5
          I agree with the general consensus. If somebody really want to steal it, they will. So save your money and just lock it up with some nothing-fancy cable or chain. Use something heavy/thick enough to deter the common vandal. You don't want to use 1/4" stuff... that would make even me think "Jeez, I bet could cut through that with some pruning shears.

          Really just needs to be more secure than the neighbors valuables
          Mike

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          • jnesmith
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2003
            • 892
            • Tallahassee, FL, USA.

            #6
            I'm not sure I agree with the concensus. I think there may be a significant difference in the deterent effect of a chain that can be cut with bolt cutters in a half second, and one that requires 30 minutes of blow torching. The difference may be worth the extra price of the beefier chain.
            John

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            • LCHIEN
              Super Moderator
              • Dec 2002
              • 22099
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              IF they just start up the mowers they can probably drive it far enough to break the chain.

              OTOH, there's not that much you can thread a chain thru that can't be unbolted anyway. So that means lock up the tools. Unless they though to bring some with them...
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              • newbie2wood
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                • Apr 2004
                • 453
                • NJ, USA.

                #8
                If someone is determined to steal them, there is not much you can do especially if you are not around. To deter or make it hard for the thief, empty the tractor's gas tank (maybe even remove a spark plug). If you are storing your equipments in a shed or barn, put the small items in the back against the wall and use the tractor to block them.
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                • skruffy
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 44
                  • Boston

                  #9
                  I agree with the comments above about someone finding a way to steal your stuff if they really want to. But I disagree with the conclusion that you shouldn't bother trying to protect your stuff anyway.

                  I don't know exactly where you are, what you're trying to protect or who might want to steal it. If you have an expensive tractor with a decent black-market value, sure, you gotta worry about the pro with the cutting torch or cordless sawzall. But a decent chain is gonna stop the general malicious folks armed with little more than their 12-pack of Budweiser and even someone a bit more determined. Around here, that's gonna cover you pretty well.

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                  • scorrpio
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1566
                    • Wayne, NJ, USA.

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WayneJ
                    If a bank vault won't stop a theif, how do you expect a chain orcable will do the job?
                    Too bad there is no electricity there. 240V/60A to the chain would be hard to beat...

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                    • gjbivin
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                      • Jan 2005
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                      • Gilbert, AZ, USA.
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                      #11
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                      • Tequila
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 684
                        • King of Prussia, PA, USA.

                        #12
                        Originally posted by skruffy
                        ... But I disagree with the conclusion that you shouldn't bother trying to protect your stuff anyway.
                        I don't think anybody was saying that. The conclusion I saw was that taking basic security measures (like a chain & padlock) are probably the best option. Anything extra won't deter a real thief.

                        One more tip that hasn't been mentioned - make sure the equipment is insured. Take some photos to document what's there and talk to your agent about replacement value. The added cost should be pretty minimal.
                        -Joe

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                        • crokett
                          The Full Monte
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 10627
                          • Mebane, NC, USA.
                          • Ryobi BT3000

                          #13
                          Originally posted by scorrpio
                          Too bad there is no electricity there. 240V/60A to the chain would be hard to beat...
                          That was my thought too.
                          David

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                          • skruffy
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 44
                            • Boston

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tequila
                            I don't think anybody was saying that. The conclusion I saw was that taking basic security measures (like a chain & padlock) are probably the best option. Anything extra won't deter a real thief.
                            Are you saying that as I quickly skimmed the thread as I fed the kids I may have misunderstood what I was reading? Impossible!

                            Yes, insurance is a good idea too.

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