Got a Question!

[gmack5]

Not trying to "start" anything, but I AM curious.

Does anyone know how many miles of fencing already exsists between the US and Mexico?

Will an additional 370 miles of fencing really make a difference?

[DUD]

George
I received this in a email today, LOML said She heard a little old Lady sent it to Paul Harvey and He read it on the air. But I don't know how much fence is there. Bill

A win win win situation

Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border,
take the dirt and raise the levies in New Orleans
and put the Florida alligators in the moat.

Any other problems you would like for me to solve today ?

[Wood_workur]

probably not, because that would leave a lot of land still open. ( the border is 1951 miles long) but in stragetic place, it could help a little.

[JTimmons]

George
I received this in a email today, LOML said She heard a little old Lady sent it to Paul Harvey and He read it on the air. But I don't know how much fence is there. Bill
A win win win situation
Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border,
take the dirt and raise the levies in New Orleans
and put the Florida alligators in the moat.
Any other problems you would like for me to solve today ?

I wonder how good alligator fajitas wood be?

[rickd]

as a neighbour of the u.s. on the 'other' border, i would sure hate to see a fence up here - although, i guess there's really no reason for one as canadians aren't emigrating illegally across the border by the thousands to live in the u.s.

just an observation, and i certainly don't want to start anything either, but it wasn't that long ago that a great american president, Ronald Reagan declared "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall"! today, we hear "Mr. Bush, build that wall"!

personally, as a friend and supporter of the u.s., i'm just a little disappointed that this situation has deteriorated so far.

[gjbivin]

I think it's a case of "if you build a 12-foot wall, someone else will build a 15-foot ladder"

[wreckwriter]

I think it's a case of "if you build a 12-foot wall, someone else will build a 15-foot ladder"

That's exactly right. I don't have the answer but I don't believe a wall is it.

[JR]

I found this article at the Washington Post, which seems to indicate we have 106 miles of fencing now. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...701888_pf.html

"...Starting in 1993, the Border Patrol blockaded major urban crossing points from San Diego to El Paso, where large groups of immigrants simply dashed across in what were known as "banzai runs." In El Paso, agents continuously patrolled the Rio Grande, hoping to deter immigrants. A year later in San Diego, the government built a 10-foot-high steel fence for Operation Gatekeeper. Eventually, 106 miles of fencing was constructed near every metropolis along the border with Mexico."...

JR

[Wood_workur]

I found this article at the Washington Post, which seems to indicate we have 106 miles of fencing now. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...701888_pf.html

"...Starting in 1993, the Border Patrol blockaded major urban crossing points from San Diego to El Paso, where large groups of immigrants simply dashed across in what were known as "banzai runs." In El Paso, agents continuously patrolled the Rio Grande, hoping to deter immigrants. A year later in San Diego, the government built a 10-foot-high steel fence for Operation Gatekeeper. Eventually, 106 miles of fencing was constructed near every metropolis along the border with Mexico."...

JR

That leaves 5/6 of the border not fenced AFTER the new fence.

[Rob R]

i seriously don't see why they just don't shoot those who run across.

get about a month of warning. and starting on the fourth of july, if you're caught runnin' you get shot.

problem solved.

try running through customs in miami sometime and see how far you get before you get your head pounded in. but the border, no big deal.



it is a shame it's gotten so out of hand.

rant on

by the way, i couldn't be happier that folks want to come her, and i'll all for as many coming as they want, but legally. if i follow the rules set forth by my government, the least folks who think this is the greatest place to live and work can do is follow the rules set up by the people who are already there. i take it quite personally that they have no regard for that.

rant off.

[Wood_workur]

i seriously don't see why they just don't shoot those who run across.

get about a month of warning. and starting on the fourth of july, if you're caught runnin' you get shot.

problem solved.

try running through customs in miami sometime and see how far you get before you get your head pounded in. but the border, no big deal.



it is a shame it's gotten so out of hand.

rant on

by the way, i couldn't be happier that folks want to come her, and i'll all for as many coming as they want, but legally. if i follow the rules set forth by my government, the least folks who think this is the greatest place to live and work can do is follow the rules set up by the people who are already there. i take it quite personally that they have no regard for that.

rant off.

I totally agree. Yeah it sucks, but if that's what we have to do, then we should do it.

And about them saying that it is hypocritical of us to do that- when America was formed, we came here legally. After America was formed, we had Ellis Island- all legal stuff.

[gjbivin]

when America was formed, we came here legally.

I think there are some native Americans who might disagree with you...

Even though it is against the law, I have to sympathisize with the Mexicans trying to come here. There are only a few thousand "legal" slots for immigration open every year, and the waiting list can be years or even decades long. The legal route is out of reach for the vast majority of Hispanics who see no opportunities in their own countries.

Plus, they are living in a system where corrupt officials are the rule, the rules are flexible, and bandits rule the back country -- obedience of bureaucratic legalities is ignored as much as observed.

I think if I were in their situation and my family was hungry, I would probably be trying to come north myself.

So, admitting that the situation is out of control, what's the answer? I don't think a wall will solve the problem, although it may help some and/or shift the scene of operations to other parts of the border and coasts. Shooting people is not a moral solution, in my opinion. A secure national ID card would almost be a necessity to identify illegals; but many Americans are afraid of that idea.

The perfect solution would be to see Mexico's economy improve so that her citizens would have better opportunities and GDP in their own country -- but that will take a long time, if it happens at all.

[Tequila]

Seems to me that the only reason so many people find crossing attractive is because it's easy to find work once you're here. I'd suggest strong enforcement against the people who are illegally employing them. Once it costs too much in penalties to employ illegal immigrants, the jobs will start to dry up leaving much less incentive to cross the border.

Building more fences makes it more dangerous to come here, but people will still come.

[Russianwolf]

I have the simplest and best solution of all.

Problem 1: Illegal immigration across the border is rampant.

Problem 2: US companies move to Mexico for cheap labor.


Solution: Annex Mexico, make it the 51st state and make Fox the first Govenor. Both problems solved. We would then have a MUCH smaller border to the south and all those Mexican could then say they are Americans and the companies would have to pay decent labor rates in those factories down there.

Any more problems?

[Wood_workur]

... 51st state...

Could you please then post a layout for the stars on the flag?