Ford's V-10 and larger V-8's.

**430752** · 03-01-2006, 10:42 PM

doh!

and they wonder why Japan.Inc is killling them?

I mean, my unborn child understands the problem with different metals expanding and contracting at different rates leading to metal fatigue.
And this on their "halo" trucks, the ones that's supposed to create good image.

well, at least my ford focus is still running strong! (I replaced the exhaust header studs meself when I put a street header on).

curt j.

**Hoover** · 03-01-2006, 11:08 PM

The problem sounds like it should be subject to a recall. Also are your trucks still under warranty? Dissimilar metal corrosion possibilities should have been eliminated through the engineering processes. I would contact the Ford district office and complain like **** over this occurrence.

**jdschulteis** · 03-01-2006, 11:20 PM

Ford Tough?

Is Ford acknowledging this as a design defect, but not offering to pay even part of the cost of fixing it? Are your trucks out of warranty?

I think you should make a fuss.

**tribalwind** · 03-02-2006, 07:43 AM

thanks for the info, my dad has a ford 'monstrosity" also (excursion) im gonna let him know.

**mikebanks** · 03-02-2006, 07:50 AM

ford

I have a 99 and a 2002. the 99 is out of warranty and the other is two.

I do snow plow and tow a 8000 lb trailer with it which causes stress to most of the vehicle.

I am going to see what the bill is today.

Please Pray for me.

**crokett** · 03-02-2006, 08:02 AM

I'm with everybody else - call Ford and make a fuss. This should be a recall or they should fix for you. I'd also threaten to call TV news, newspaper, etc.

**Stick** · 03-03-2006, 11:29 AM

Typical Ford crap. They're infamous for stupid designs and unacknowledged problems. I've currently got an F150 that's parked while I drive my 75 GMC grain truck 450 miles to work and back because the Ford is just too darned expensive to keep throwing money at! $8000 in repairs and parts in 4 years, and I do nearly all my own labour. A person has got to be made of money to be able to keep a Ford on the road! The real kicker is the grain truck has an 8V53 Detroit and a 13 spd, and gets better mileage loaded than the darned pickup does empty!

**jziegler** · 03-03-2006, 11:50 AM

Mike,

Sorry to hear about the truck problem, I hope the bill wasn't too bad.

It's funny, the American car companines build junk like this, and then wonder why they are losing so much market share to the Japanese. It really seems like truck sales have beent eh only thing keeping GM and Ford going recently, and now it sounds like Ford has major problems with some of their trucks. Funny, not long ago I would have considered their trucks were I looking to purchase. Now I'd be less likely. And they have no cars I have even minimal interest in.

Definately call Ford and make a stink. Try to find others with similar problems, and get them to make a stink too. Make it loud so someone has to listen.

-Jim

P.S. I get to go out and get the brakes done on the front of my Nissan again because they can't make a rotor that doesn't warp... The Japanese have some problems too.....

**sacherjj** · 03-03-2006, 01:20 PM

I'd love to buy American. If it wasn't crap. My girlfriend's dad gave me a hard time about the '96 Nissan Maxima I drive. I asked him how many miles his broken down (i.e. no longer running) Ford truck has on it. After hearing a number under 100k, I informed him that my Maxima has it's second wind and it running strong at 235k. It is running well enough that I used it for a very comfortable 3k mile road trip last summer. When you can buy a car with power everything, heated seats, Bose sound, etc. for $5k cash and put 60k miles on it without problems, it is hard to get an American car. What I don't understand is why I can fit in most foreign autos, but can't fit in most American autos. I just don't get it.

**Russianwolf** · 03-03-2006, 01:39 PM

While Foreign cars may have been better than the Domestics in the past, I don't think that holds up as much anymore. I am consistently seeing the domestics go up in the surveys and the foreigns coming down.

Now when you are talking about full sized trucks, you can't even mention the foreign trucks. Toyota came out with the MIDsized T100, then the not quite full sized Tundra, Nissan came out with the best of the litter with the Titan, and honda has the v-6 powered Ridgeline thingy.

now the T-100 was a joke when compared to the Domestic full sized trucks it TRIED to compete against. The Tundra is alittle better. The Titan and Ridgeline are just too new to have any idea how they will hold-up. But the biggest claim to fame for the foreigns is the "better gas milage" well, the Titan which can actually pull a decent load gets the same or worse than the domestics which pull even more.

As far as full sized trucks (and we're only talking about the 1/2 toners here since no one else makes a 3/4 or 1 ton yet) Domestic is still the way to go. But I'd take my Ram over the F150 anytime.

**mschrank** · 03-03-2006, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by mikebanks

I do snow plow and tow a 8000 lb trailer with it which causes stress to most of the vehicle.

Thought that's what these kind of trucks were designed for...?

A person has got to be made of money to be able to keep a Ford on the road!

Isn't their motto...Built Ford Tough (?)

I've converted to Japanese autos after 15 years of owning and repairing domestic brands. But as far as I know, there aren't any readily available Japanese options for the trucks Mike B. has. So this is the final market segment (BIG trucks) still controlled by the domestic companies...but with some of the latest offerings from Toyota and Nissan, looks like they might step in.

**9johnny5** · 03-03-2006, 01:47 PM

That thing got a Hemi?

just kidding....we Dodge Ram owners usually have transmission problems.

None so far....knock on wood.

johnny

**jziegler** · 03-03-2006, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by sacherjj

I'd love to buy American. If it wasn't crap. My girlfriend's dad gave me a hard time about the '96 Nissan Maxima I drive. I asked him how many miles his broken down (i.e. no longer running) Ford truck has on it. After hearing a number under 100k, I informed him that my Maxima has it's second wind and it running strong at 235k. It is running well enough that I used it for a very comfortable 3k mile road trip last summer. When you can buy a car with power everything, heated seats, Bose sound, etc. for $5k cash and put 60k miles on it without problems, it is hard to get an American car. What I don't understand is why I can fit in most foreign autos, but can't fit in most American autos. I just don't get it.

Joe,

Funny that you mention that. When I was looking for a new car 5 years ago, and was only seriously looking at foreign models, a friend of mine commented about how I should buy American. I bought a Maxima. 6 months later, he bought a Toyota. He wanted a convertible, and the Solara was the only one he liked. He said that the Chrylser Sebring (really the only American car similar in size, price, and the like) wasn't as nice, was noisy, stuff like that. I would like to buy American. It's just hard.

One other thing is to look at where the cars are assembled. The foreign companies are moving more and more assembly to the US. Lower transportation costs. Of the last 4 or 5 American cars my parents have bought, I think only one was assembled in the US. The rest were Mexico or Canada. And Mexico seems to be more common right now.

-Jim

**mikebanks** · 03-03-2006, 01:57 PM

Ford's Problems

Yes, we are talking about 3/4 ton trucks.

They are not the same as the 150's. Too many differences. They dont ride like a car, solid front suspension, larger gauge thickness on the frame, heavier suspension.

THEY EVEN CHARGE ME EXTRA to work on the truck.

The trucks are put under constant strain. I know they take a beating.

I am tempted to add a lift kit or something to it too. larger tires. Make it look like a 78-79 high boy.

But, I am never short of Horse Power. when it is running that is.......

Ford's V-10 and larger V-8's.

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