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  • SteveJ
    Forum Newbie
    • Feb 2006
    • 50

    #1

    you never know...

    I don't post much but this was too good not to share... I knew about Lee Marvin but not the others.....


    YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THE QUIET ONES.

    Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

    I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.

    In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions,
    Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor.



    If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

    Dialogue from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin. Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

    "Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But,Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the **** off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

    That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, where'd they get you Lee?' Well Bob... if you make it home be fore me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"

    Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.

    The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."



    On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.



    After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.

    America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.

    Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.

    Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.

    Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr.Rogers
  • boblon
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 727
    • Florida, USA.

    #2
    Thanks for posting that.

    BobL.
    "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

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    • Marv
      Forum Newbie
      • Dec 2005
      • 24
      • Noblesville, In, USA.

      #3
      Although these are great stories, they are not true according to www.snopes.com.

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      • parnelli
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 585
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        • bt3100

        #4
        Originally posted by Marv
        Although these are great stories, they are not true according to www.snopes.com.
        The direct link: http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp

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        • LCHIEN
          Super Moderator
          • Dec 2002
          • 21978
          • Katy, TX, USA.
          • BT3000 vintage 1999

          #5
          Originally posted by parnelli
          No offense stevie, maybe you were just trying to pass on a nice story, which it might have been.

          But I think the next guy who publishes a story that Snopes debunks as an internet myth owes us all a beer for failing to run a simple www.snopes.com check!
          Loring in Katy, TX USA
          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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          • jdschulteis
            Established Member
            • Mar 2003
            • 139
            • Muskego, Wisconsin, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3100

            #6
            Originally posted by SteveJ
            [. . .]
            America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.
            Over the past couple years, the 60th anniversaries of such events as D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge brought a lot of specials to the History Channel. I remember in one of them, a decorated veteran said words to this effect: "The real heroes were the ones who didn't come back."

            Originally posted by SteveJ
            [. . .]
            Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom.
            There's no debunking that part!

            --
            Jerry
            Jerry

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            • 9johnny5
              Established Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 179
              • Orange Park, FL
              • BT3100

              #7
              Originally posted by jdschulteis
              Over the past couple years, the 60th anniversaries of such events as D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge brought a lot of specials to the History Channel. I remember in one of them, a decorated veteran said words to this effect: "The real heroes were the ones who didn't come back."

              There's no debunking that part!

              --
              Jerry
              Amen.

              johnny
              not exactly Norm...al

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              • 430752
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 855
                • Northern NJ, USA.
                • BT3100

                #8
                which leads to the old saying...

                There's an old saying I hear in my line my work (unions) regarding guys who try to be stand-up guys. Nothing wrong with it, and in fact even encouraged, but the adage is a reality check:

                Cemeteries are full of heroes.

                This is often said by old grizzled 'Nam vets who are now Unions presidents, treasurers, etc. One guy has the silver star. I figure they knew what they were talking about.

                curt j.
                A Man is incomplete until he gets married ... then he's FINISHED!!!

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                • SteveJ
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 50

                  #9
                  OOPS! sorry guys... I usually don't believe that stuff but I got it from a good source. Guess passing on a false story is not the best way to introduce myself, eh?

                  Steve

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                  • BobSch
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 4385
                    • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteveJ
                    OOPS! sorry guys... I usually don't believe that stuff but I got it from a good source. Guess passing on a false story is not the best way to introduce myself, eh?

                    Steve
                    Hey, don't sweat it. Everybody gets caught from time to time. Just bookmark http://www.snopes.com They have the straight dope on most of these urban legends.

                    Oh, and welcome to the asylum.
                    Bob

                    Bad decisions make good stories.

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                    • Rounder
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1287
                      • Sanford, FL, USA.
                      • BT3100

                      #11
                      Snopes! Don't leave home without it.
                      George AKA Rounder

                      "Amarillo Slim, the greatist proposition gambler of all time held to his father's maxim; You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin him only once."

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                      • rbfunk
                        Established Member
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 400
                        • Garfield, NJ, USA.

                        #12
                        Actually it's a decent way to introduce youself. Notice you didn't get flamed? Just a gentle pointing oout that what you heard ain't nessacraly so.
                        Welcome to the nicest place on the internet.
                        Just wait. One of us will screw up and maybe you can straighten us out.
                        Bob
                        Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we are all hopped up on caffine.

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