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  • kwgeorge
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 1419
    • Alvin, TX, USA.

    #1

    Back in the Saddle!

    It is very nice to be back in the shop turning what I want to turn. I turned last night and all of today and just generally enjoyed myself. The first thing that I made was a box out of Maple Burl with an Ebony finial.



    Then I got busy on a Potpourri jar that I had been planning. This is Cherry with Mahogany foot and neck. It is 4-1/4” tall and 5-1/2” wide. It is also hollowed to about 1/8th inch wall thickness.



    I then was sitting in the house with nothing I really wanted to turn or at least I had no ideas. I went back out to the shop and started looking at a piece of canary wood I had. As I was holding it in my hand I got to thinking about Bob’s beautiful Hard Maple goblet and got inspired.

    This is what I made and I was very nervous most of the time hoping I would not blow this one up as it was progressing so well. It is Canary Wood and is 6-1/4” tall by about 2” wide. Since Canary is considered a Tulip Wood I decided to shape the goblet like a tulip. I also made interlocking captive rings on this one which is a first for me.



    This picture show the goblet on its side for a better view of the shape and the rings.



    The goblet itself was hollowed to about 1/16” using many delicate passes with a side scraper.



    I am very pleased with this piece and I hope you like it. Thanks for looking!
  • Whit
    Established Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 110
    • Denton, Tx, USA.
    • BT3000, BT3100

    #2
    Ken, you have outdone yourself. This is a great piece. If it is not a family secret, how did you do the interlocking rings?

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    • mudder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 1532
      • I live in a house
      • Delta 36-650

      #3
      I see you got another Texas Quarter.

      And I see that

      YOU STILL SUCK!!


      Now.... tell me how you got those rings to interlock?

      You had to split one of them, no?


      Mudder
      Admiring the goblet.

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      • SteveR
        Established Member
        • Feb 2003
        • 494
        • USA.

        #4
        WOW.....All amazing. You outdid yourself...WOW
        Okay..the captive rings interlocking...I am trying to figure that one out. Are they equal sizes? Mudder may be on to something. Or maybe some handcarving?
        Thanks for showing..that was a treat
        Steve

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        • boblon
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2003
          • 727
          • Florida, USA.

          #5
          Absolutely beautiful Ken. I don't know how you do it but your projects continue to get better and better.

          I too am curious about those captive rings. I agree, one of 'em had to be split.

          I actually made a single captive ring on that goblet I made. I didn't have a captive ring tool so I made one using a parting tool. It looked ok, but the inner part of the ring wasn't round and it ended up looking out of scale so right before I posted the picture I cut off the captive ring. Didn't want it to detract from a project I was otherwise happy with.

          I'm still up in Michigan, but I did pick up a captive ring tool to bring back with me. Also got a Sorby hollowing tool. Can't wait to get back and try em out. But I digress...

          Your work is beautiful, and that's the point here.

          BobL.
          "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

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          • RodKirby
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2002
            • 3136
            • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
            • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

            #6
            I just cannot get interested in using a lathe - but I sure can appreciate the artistry and workmanship that you guys display.

            Beautiful work!

            Now - how long did the goblet take? From block of wood to what we see?
            Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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            • boblon
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2003
              • 727
              • Florida, USA.

              #7
              Please don't take offense Rod as I mean this in a humorous way....but..

              I can understand why you can't get into the lathe. I just don't see how you would have the time to finish anything. I mean after all, it would take a long time what with the, make a shaving...clean up the shaving....make a shaving....clean up the shaving...etc, etc, etc...

              But I've got to tell you, if you ever did, I for one would just love to see the pictures of your work. Judging by your other work, it would have to be fantastic.

              BobL.
              "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

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              • mudder
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 1532
                • I live in a house
                • Delta 36-650

                #8
                quote:Originally posted by boblon



                I actually made a single captive ring on that goblet I made. I didn't have a captive ring tool so I made one using a parting tool. It looked ok, but the inner part of the ring wasn't round and it ended up looking out of scale so right before I posted the picture I cut off the captive ring. Didn't want it to detract from a project I was otherwise happy with.

                Bob,

                I wrap the stem with self stick sandpaper and ues that to round out a captive ring. even with the ring tool it will not be totally round.


                Mudder

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                • Ken Weaver
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 2417
                  • Clemson, SC, USA
                  • Rigid TS3650

                  #9
                  I have to agree with Rod, looking at this beautiful work really intimidates me. Ken Massingale gave me a beautiful zebrawood box for Christmas and I am just in awe of what you turners are able to do. Maybe some day I'll get over my fear and try it out. On the other hand, I'm still learning M&T joints!!
                  Ken Weaver
                  Clemson, SC

                  "A mistake is absolute proof that someone tried to do something!

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                  • Pappy
                    The Full Monte
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10490
                    • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 (x2)

                    #10
                    You have exceeded your own efforts on this goblet, KW!

                    Interlocking captive rings....I see another tutorial....coming soon to a web site near us!!!!

                    Don, aka Pappy,

                    Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                    Fools because they have to say something.
                    Plato

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                    • CrashResq
                      Established Member
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 199
                      • Okmulgee, OK, USA
                      • Ryobi BT3100

                      #11
                      That maple and ebony box has to be one of the prettiest I've seen. I'll email you my home address and you can send me that one ... working that ebony down that small has to be nerve racking.

                      I know how you did the rings.... neener, neener... at least I know how I do 'em.... but I'll keep the secret and let you tell it in one of your outstanding tutorials. My question is how are you guys getting the stems so slim? Make sure that part is in the tutorial for me please

                      Keep up the good works Ken... you keep me inspired.
                      Bill (in OK)

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                      • kwgeorge
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 1419
                        • Alvin, TX, USA.

                        #12
                        Well you guys guessed right, I broke one of the rings and rejoined it with CA glue. I would like to have said I carved it but I am not ready for that yet. I had made 4 rings incase I screwed up I would have a backup or two but they were not necessary as I got lucky on the first one. I got this idea from Bill Grumbine awhile back but never tried it. I really appreciate you guys and the support and encouragement that you give me it makes me push myself to do a piece like this. Most people don’t understand that this is Canary wood and it is very soft so going this thin with it is pushing the limits of me and the wood.

                        Rod, I really could not tell you how long it took to make this since time just seems to go by unnoticed out in the shop. If I were to guess I would say about 4 hours. I guess I can be a bit of a perfectionist as the piece can have no tool marks, torn grain and the finish has to be perfectly uniform. I noticed one day awhile back that a lot of people subscribe to a rough cutting and shaping with power sanders methodology in the work they do. I feel that all detail is lost like this so I have forced myself to learn to cut cleanly. This take considerable time and effort but I like the end results better.

                        Bob, what Scott said is true you still have to sand and deal with the back of the ring. The problem with the captive ring tool is that if it is used as it is intended you will have ¼” thick rings every time. Since my rings vary greatly in size and thickness I only use this tool slightly in my rings and it just helps with some of the clean up.

                        Pappy, you are right I have been perfecting my technique on the rings for a tutorial hopefully this week while I am off of work. So Scott get ready to see a different way to do things because you know how I am!

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                        • Whaler
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 3281
                          • Sequim, WA, USA.
                          • DW746

                          #13
                          Ken

                          You went over the top with that goblet.
                          Dick

                          http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rgpete2/

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                          • GeekMom
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 752
                            • Bonney Lake, WA.
                            • Shopsmith Mark V

                            #14
                            Beautiful work, as usual, Ken! I'm intrigued by the rings on the goblet, too.
                            Karen
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