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  • SteveR
    Established Member
    • Feb 2003
    • 494
    • USA.

    #1

    How to.........

    Hi all,
    I am turning some NE bowls I am trying to make for some Christmas presents.
    I have run into a situation and am not sure how to tackle it. I got this idea from another forum and wish to write the individual prior to posting details/pics about it to give credit where it is due. In the meantime, I will try and describe where I am having troubles. Envision a traditional bowl, although the center is raised from the bottom to hold tea candles. This would not be a big issue if the sides were straight up from the bottom (could use a square end scraper), but the sides are tapered (thicker at bottom and slowly taper up to the top where the candles are held). Most of the side type scrapers I have seen are made to use the left side of the scraper. I need the opposite, something to scrape on the right hand side of the scraper. I have tried bowl gouges and get WICKED catches, was well as a slight round nose scraper with the same results. Some of the sides of the bowls are fairly deep and the raised candle holder on some are deep as well. So working room is not a plenty.

    Maybe I should regrind the round nose to give more curving on the right side of the chisel? thoughts???? Basically it is like doing a tapered spindle inside of a bowl. I do not have any heavy scrapers, only have the shopsmith set, a SS side scraper, the Delta set along with two pinnacle bowl gouges from WC. Maybe I need to get one of those heavy (thick) scrapers like you see on the raffan dvd's?? I am also having a terrible time using the SS side scraper for the bottom and sides of the bowl...it catches. I can only get my tool rest in so far for support due to the differing elevations of the sides of the NE bowl, so the tip of it is hanging off 2-4", so maybe a heavier scraper will help me there?


    I hope I explained well enough and thanks for reading!
    Steve
  • Tom Miller
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 2507
    • Twin Cities, MN
    • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

    #2
    I'd recommend something like this:



    With the curved scraper attachment, you can set it for any angle of attack. You can make your own, and just buy the replacement scraper tips, too. That's what I did.

    Regards,
    Tom

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    • Whit
      Established Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 110
      • Denton, Tx, USA.
      • BT3000, BT3100

      #3
      Scraper

      Unless my memory is gone( and it may be) Penn State has both left and right scrapers. Not sure where my catalog is or would check.
      Whit

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      • gerti
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 2233
        • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
        • BT3100 "Frankensaw"

        #4
        A set of these inexpensive Harbor freight HSS turning chisels seem ideal to regrind into specialty tools.

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        • Jim Boyd
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2002
          • 1766
          • Montgomery, Texas, USA.
          • Delta Unisaw

          #5
          What Tom posted works nicely but I like a big honking, heavy azzed left handed scraper myself
          Jim in Texas and Sicko Ryobi Cult Member ©

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          • SteveR
            Established Member
            • Feb 2003
            • 494
            • USA.

            #6
            Thanks for the replies! Looks like a trip to WC is in order....after approval from the finance department. Hopefully I can catch something on sale.
            Thanks again,
            Steve

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            • Jim Ketron
              Forum Newbie
              • Jul 2005
              • 68
              • Weber City, Va, USA.

              #7
              Steve I use a Sorby extra heavy-duty bowl scraper it's 1" wide and 1/2" thick. I try to turn as much as posible with my bowl gouge then clean it up with the bowl scraper.
              Jim
              (Have Chainsaw-Will Travel) please visit my web site http://home.earthlink.net/~jimandkrista/

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              • SteveR
                Established Member
                • Feb 2003
                • 494
                • USA.

                #8
                Originally posted by SteveR
                I got this idea from another forum and wish to write the individual prior to posting details/pics about it to give credit where it is due.
                Mr. Jim Ketron is the guy who I got this whole idea from. I wrote him and gave me the okay to post away Thanks Jim!

                After struggling on which tool to get to help me, and I think I would have preferred a heavy azzed scraper as was suggested, but right now I am leaning towards the sorby multi tip scraper. It may have more versitality for a newbie like me, plus my working area inside the bowl is limited for a big scraper. Hopefully I get some xmax gift certs. so I can get the heavy scrapers. A very timely email from Rockler helped me lean toward this too. $15 off over $50 and they are $10 cheaper than WC to start with. This could change after I show one of the Rockler guys my problem.

                I have four of these in various stages of completion and right now experimenting with finishes on walnut. Been doing alot of reading and searching on the internet in this regard. Tried BLO and it darkened the end grain quite a bit OH NOOO!!!. Read that adding some turpentine to the BLO will help provide a more natural finish....seems to help and still experimenting with this one. Wife got me some Walnut oil from the grocery store and I will get some 100% tung oil to see if one of these help.

                Did I mention there is a pretty good pucker/fear factor involved with natural edge bowls? The outsides are a breeze now....the insides are another story.

                Thanks again for all the feedback and help!
                Steve

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