truly delusional

[toolguy1000]

i know ridiculous CL postings like this one are nothing new, but for $750, i think the title for this c-man RAS is appropriate:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/tls/2913399464.html

[cwsmith]

Nice looking, but I agree that it seems to be way over valued.

Many people look at thier "stuff" as being more value simply because they are the one's who have owned it or are selling it. I never could get a grip on why people perceive their "used" stuff this way.

Personally, I have what I call "virgin complex"... I really don't like to buy "used" anything. I much prefer to buy it new, get the joy out of unboxing it and setting it up myself. Probably very silly of me, but that's how I feel.

My other "flaw" is that I don't like selling stuff either. I just see "value" to having it and all too often when that item no longer has value to me, I often just give it away to someone who I think might enjoy it as much as I have. Sort of like finding "a good home" for the thing that I once enjoyed and still have appreciation for it's value as a gift.

But, our opinions doesn't mean that this thing won't sell at that price. "Value" (like beauty) is in the eye of the beholder!

CWS

[cabinetman]

Everyone has their "price", which is usually negotiable. Maybe if they watch CL they'll get an idea of what it's really worth.

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[leehljp]

Nice looking, but I agree that it seems to be way over valued.

Many people look at thier "stuff" as being more value simply because they are the one's who have owned it or are selling it. I never could get a grip on why people perceive their "used" stuff this way.

I could not agree MORE! I have a friend who thinks that just about everything he owns "appreciates" in value like gold does. The older the more value it has. If it has lasted 20 years, then it is better than what can be bought today!

My other "flaw" is that I don't like selling stuff either. I just see "value" to having it and all too often when that item no longer has value to me, I often just give it away to someone who I think might enjoy it as much as I have. Sort of like finding "a good home" for the thing that I once enjoyed and still have appreciation for it's value as a gift.

But, our opinions doesn't mean that this thing won't sell at that price. "Value" (like beauty) is in the eye of the beholder!

CWS

LOML often gets onto me about "giving" something away rather than selling it. But like you, I would rather see someone who knows how to use it or really needs it - I would rather them have it - than sell it and have someone gripe to me because they broke it and it was "my" fault!

[chopnhack]

If it's lasted 20 years, then it truly is a treasure..

[cwsmith]

Lee,

I agree completely. I've had only two such occasions. The first being that a very dear neighbor decided to just pick up and move south for health reasons, not wanting or risking another northern winter.

So he gave me his snow blower, which I never used or had much use for. (I actually like "shoveling"!) So, a friend of mine at work needed a snow blower and of course I now had one. He offered me $300, but I told him I didn't think it was worth it... "Take it, give it a try and name your own price, but $300 is way too much"... so he ended up giving me $150, and then for months I heard his "grief".

I gave a friend of my wife's a Nissan SX2000 that my son had no interest in. I really didn't want any money for it, but she paid my wife $900 (the "book" at the time was something like $3000. She drove that car everywhere and in someplaces that you simply don't drive a car (like "fields" of rock concerts, etc. A year after when she had pretty much trashed the vehicle all we heard from her was how much she was having to pay for repairs to suspension, wrenched doors, underbody damage, etc.

NEVER AGAIN! With some people I wouldn't even give stuff, they always expect you to warrantee it. (You have to really consider the ability of a person to value their own stuff.)

CWS

[Cochese]

I'm finding the same things on mortiser listings locally. They only come up once in a blue moon, and they seem to be priced accordingly.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/2939553537.html


I do appreciate this response, though:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/tls/2960901122.html

[greenacres2]

Mortisers do come up rarely. I finally got one last weekend, from CL. JBM-5, missing the table, the 3/4" bushing and material hold-down--all on order from Jet for about $30.

Paid $250 for it.

But...it did come with a Grizzly 6" x 47" jointer/planer (G1182-Z) on a Shop-Fox roller stand--so i'm thinking $250 was okay for both. Not a gloat, but okay.

Some of the CL pricing i see is crazy. RA saws are the worst--i paid $50 for a pretty pristine, well-adjusted machine and still see the $300 to $500 ads pop up that are rustic relics. Cavaet Emptor.
earl

[toolguy1000]

greenacres....congrats on the buy. don;t know about anyone else, but that's gloatable. almost like you got the motiser for free.

[JSUPreston]

I will give something to someone I know before I sell it to them. I got burned one time by reselling a computer I had to a guy that worked maintenance for the company I worked for. Sold him a complete machine with monitor for $200 (late 90's), which included MS Office, Windows 98, etc. All legit and the latest versions of the software. The software was worth more than I sold the computer for. (IIRC, it was a Pentium 200MMX with 32MB RAM, etc. PII's had just come out)

2 years later!!!! he's bellyaching to my boss about the piece of junk I sold him and about how it died over the weekend. The boss took me aside, told me that he knew I did nothing wrong, but to pull spare parts from our stock and fix the computer at no cost to anyone just to get him to quit fussing.

Lesson learned.

[greenacres2]

greenacres....congrats on the buy. don;t know about anyone else, but that's gloatable. almost like you got the motiser for free.

Thanks--wasn't really looking for the jointer, but i've been nursing a Delta JT-160 that i got really cheap. I have re-soldered the VS control board a few times, listed price on the board is like $120 so when i saw the chance to bundle the Grizzly and the mortiser...i did it.

Both run pretty smooth, needed clean-up but show signs of being well-maintained. Plus, the two young brothers selling their deceased father's stuff were in 4-H with my sons, and i knew their Dad. Nice to get a chance to see them again, grown up with real jobs!!
earl

[jseklund]

LOL, I love stuff like this. I am in real estate, so I see this constantly. I do mostly commercial, but it doesn't matter if it's residential or commercial - once someone owns it, it's gold. When someone else owns it, it's a pile of crap.

A co-worker of mine used to have a printout of three houses. One was trashed and said, "How a buyer sees a house". The second was normal and said, "How the house really is." and the third, was a large mansion in pristine condition with a halo over it and a caption that, of course, said "how a seller sees their house".

I always tell people it's their job to get the best deal they can - whether they are the buyer or the seller, but it's only a deal if it actually happens. As humans, it's amazing how we can imagine things and convince ourselves it's true because we imagined it. Our brain can't tell the difference between the real and the imagined - so we think, "I'm going to sell this house for $500,000 and then steal a bigger house for $450,000 and make out and life will be great". We start thinking that, we start believing it, and then we can't accept reality when we need to...

The real irony on that RAS is that there are people offering him $50 for it on CL and he's saying "CL is just for bottom feeders. I've never sold anything on there." If he just priced it right, it'd be gone.