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  • annunaki
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
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    • White Springs, Florida
    • 21829, BT3100, 2-BT3000(15amp)

    #1

    How to Drill Square Holes

    http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/10/wa...-square-holes/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fileodecahedron.gif
  • chopnhack
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3779
    • Florida
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    Very cool annunaki. It looks like it follows an eccentric orbit to make a near perfect square. Never thought of how one would do that with a spinning bit in that fashion!
    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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    • phrog
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 1796
      • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

      #3
      I thought you just used a square bit to drill square holes. Problem is - I can't find any square bits.
      Richard

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      • Pappy
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 10481
        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 (x2)

        #4
        Wonder what it would do in a piece of wood......
        Don, aka Pappy,

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        Fools because they have to say something.
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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          Originally posted by Pappy
          Wonder what it would do in a piece of wood......
          In that case it would take a square dowel (which doesn't make sense) as round wouldn't work...call them tenons.

          .

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          • radhak
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            • Apr 2006
            • 3061
            • Miramar, FL
            • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

            #6
            Originally posted by Pappy
            Wonder what it would do in a piece of wood......
            Wouldn't it work the same? Or are you thinking the wood might split or something?

            I still don't understand the theory behind how it achieves this - does the bit have a retrievable edge (no, I think), or is it just the eccentric motion? More likely the latter, but I'm unable to get my brain around how exactly precise that motion has to be.
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            • JSUPreston
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              • Dec 2005
              • 1189
              • Montgomery, AL.
              • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

              #7
              Heck, I was thinking of just using a mortiser the last time I needed a square hole. However, I didn't have one, so I did something else. (was making a ladder for a fire truck coat rack for my son a few years ago - I just used a dowel instead)
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              • natausch
                Established Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 436
                • Aurora, IL
                • BT3000 - 15A

                #8
                Great for metal, sufficiently overcomplicated for wood.

                In my opinion the Mortiser is the single most underappreciated piece of equipment in any shop that does M&T joinery.

                Yes a Domino can do great/quick M&T; but once the setup is done on a mortiser; you can blast through all the mortises on a project in a few minutes.

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                • Old Dutchman
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 38
                  • Holland Mi
                  • My BT3000

                  #9
                  Square holes

                  I seen Roy Underhill cutting square, or pre designed holes for use on a wood square. He had a belt, with the template on His belt, and a strange two piece steel drill bit. Cutting holes in wood!
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                  • sscherin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 772
                    • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                    #10
                    It's just a triangle shaped bit mounted off axis.. amazingly simple solution.



                    This video helps understand how it works

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5AzbDJ7KYI
                    Last edited by sscherin; 10-20-2011, 06:26 PM.
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                    • gerti
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                      • Dec 2003
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                      • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
                      • BT3100 "Frankensaw"

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sscherin
                      It's just a triangle shaped bit mounted off axis.. amazingly simple solution.
                      My spatial thinking isn't the best but I think it is a bit more involved than mounting the bit of axis.

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                      • chopnhack
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                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3779
                        • Florida
                        • Ryobi BT3100

                        #12
                        Well, the video puts to life what I said with words. The video is more eloquent
                        I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                        • Alex Franke
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2641
                          • Chapel Hill, NC
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          This is usually done with Reuleaux triangles, which are basically a simple curve of constant width. Something can roll on top of them very smoothly, but they don't make good wheels because the centers don't stay centered. They rotate nicely inside of a square, which is why they can be used to drill square holes.

                          They're very easy to make, and if you have kids, I'd recommend making some. It's a blast to see the looks on their faces when something rolls so smoothly on top of triangles!

                          I made some for my kids to play with a couple months ago, and now the contraption is being shared among classes at my boy's school. There's a video here on my web site that shows how easy they are to make:

                          http://www.thefrankes.com/wp/?p=2518

                          (And yes, I cheated a bit with the video! )
                          Last edited by Alex Franke; 10-24-2011, 11:26 PM.
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                          • phrog
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 1796
                            • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alex Franke
                            This is usually done with Reuleaux triangles, which are basically a simple curve of constant width. Something can roll on top of them very smoothly, but they don't make good wheels because the centers don't stay centered. They rotate nicely inside of a square, which is why they can be used to drill square holes.

                            They're very easy to make, and if you have kids, I'd recommend making some. It's a blast to see the looks on their faces when something rolls so smoothly on top of triangles!

                            I made some for my kids to play with a couple months ago, and now the contraption is being shared among classes at my boy's school. There's a video here on my web site that shows how easy they are to make:

                            http://www.thefrankes.com/wp/?p=2518

                            (And yes, I cheated a bit with the video! )
                            Very cool video, Alex. I assume the Reuleaux triangle is based on an equilateral triangle after watching your son draw one. Never heard of them before but they are cool.

                            After reading your link, I agree that the OP's video must be a Harry Watt bit that drills a hole that is "nearly square."
                            Last edited by phrog; 10-25-2011, 04:04 PM.
                            Richard

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                            • BobSch
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                              • Aug 2004
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                              #15
                              Looks like a Wankel engine with sharp edges.
                              Bob

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