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  • Richard in Smithville
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3014
    • On the TARDIS
    • BT 3100

    #16
    I have a keyless on my 12volt cordless but all my other drills are keyed. I use two holes. I have found that often there is a minute bit torque left in the second twist.
    From the "deep south" part of Canada

    Richard in Smithville

    http://richardspensandthings.blogspot.com/

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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #17
      I've absolutely had better luck getting tighter, straighter bits by using all three holes.

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      • Daryl
        Senior Member
        • May 2004
        • 831
        • .

        #18
        In a perfect world one hole would give even torque all around but chucks just aren't that much of a precision device, so I use all three holes to get even torque all the way around.
        Sometimes the old man passed out and left the am radio on so I got to hear the oldie songs and current event kind of things

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        • cork58
          Established Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 365
          • Wasilla, AK, USA.
          • BT3000

          #19
          I worked for a machine shop for awhile and was taught that to get a true center to use all three. This applied to the lathe, milling machine, bore dog and anything else that had a chuck. We were rather picky 40 years ago. The shop was all belt driven then and the machines were not as good as todays, well, maybe. But, I still do all three sides.

          Just my thoughts.
          Cork,

          Dare to dream and dare to fail.

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          • SARGE..g-47

            #20
            Originally posted by cork58
            I worked for a machine shop for awhile and was taught that to get a true center to use all three. This applied to the lathe, milling machine, bore dog and anything else that had a chuck. We were rather picky 40 years ago. The shop was all belt driven then and the machines were not as good as todays, well, maybe. But, I still do all three sides.

            Just my thoughts.
            Thanks for posting that as I find it interesting. Maybe... just maybe that all three is better and there is a technical reason why? But.. I really don't have any problems doing one but again... if I do have one in the future I will go to all three.

            As far as key-less chucks.. I hate them. The DP has key.. my 1/2" drill has keyed.. I changed out both key-less on my two 3/8" to Jacobs keyed.

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            • Ed62
              The Full Monte
              • Oct 2006
              • 6021
              • NW Indiana
              • BT3K

              #21
              I've always used all three. I guess the reason being that I was taught that way many years ago.

              Ed
              Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

              For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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              • Tom Slick
                Veteran Member
                • May 2005
                • 2913
                • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                • sears BT3 clone

                #22
                I was taught to use all three but I only use one if it is a easy/quick hole. I don the same on a metal lathe. I was told using all three ensures all three jaws are equally tight.
                Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                • drillman88
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 572
                  • Southeast
                  • Delta Platinum Edition Contractor Saw

                  #23
                  I use all three on the high speed air drills I use at work and go over them twice sometimes three times on small bits.The jaws tend to loosen on these for some reason.I tighten the chucks on slower drill motors for bigger bits with a small cheater pipe and do all three.These have lots of torque and the bits will spin in the chuck when breaking through the material.
                  I think therefore I .....awwww where is that remote.

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                  • drumpriest
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3338
                    • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
                    • Powermatic PM 2000

                    #24
                    I was never taught anything, but I do tighten all 3, the reason is that I just tried it one day and noticed that even though the 1st one seemed tight, the 2nd one could still be tightened slightly. I'm sure this was because there was some play in that chuck, but it got me started doing all 3, and I still do it.
                    Keith Z. Leonard
                    Go Steelers!

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                    • Tom Slick
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 2913
                      • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                      • sears BT3 clone

                      #25
                      If nothing else you are triple checking that the chuck it tight enough to fight you when you try to loosen it to change bits.
                      Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                      • rnelson0
                        Established Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 424
                        • Midlothian, VA (Richmond)
                        • Firestorm FS2500TS

                        #26
                        As far as key-less chucks.. I hate them. The DP has key.. my 1/2" drill has keyed.. I changed out both key-less on my two 3/8" to Jacobs keyed.
                        I bought a keyed chuck for my portable hammer drill, but honestly I cannot get the keyless off. They certainly make sure the chuck itself is attached, even if it lets go of the drill bits

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