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  • pacwind3
    Established Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 257
    • Vancouver, WA
    • Bosch 4100

    #1

    Blade and bit cleaning solution/methods

    I've been so hesitant to invest in any blade and bit cleaner cause it seems kinda spendy. I know Rockler sells a kit, but I thought it's like $20. Now I saw Marc (on woodwhisperer) do some cleaning and he said he reuses the solution. That seems smart and would offset the cost of the solution.
    My question is: what do you folks use as solution? Do you have any speacial methods or tools? Wire brush? That kind of thing. And, any recomendations on a 10" or slightly larger, shallow pan?
    I've been cutting allot of soft woods lately and things are getting gummed up pretty good.

    Oh yes and one other thing, when you've cleaned router bits with bearings, what do you use to lubricate the bearing?

    Thanks guys.
    Last edited by pacwind3; 06-19-2008, 12:09 PM.
  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #2
    This stuff works pretty good.
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    • pelligrini
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4217
      • Fort Worth, TX
      • Craftsman 21829

      #3
      I've been using a concentrated solution I picked from woodcraft.

      I tried a shallow plastic pan the first time, but I'd get a lot of the solution everywhere when I was using a nylon brush. I found that a 5 gal plastic pail works well for me. Less splatter when brushing and less solution if you need to soak the blade for a bit.
      Erik

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      • jussi
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2162

        #4
        Do you guys find the the writing comes off when using the stuff?
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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          I've always just used Simple Green and a nylon bristle brush or firm toothbrush. The lettering only comes off if you let it soak too long. I've heard Simple Green can damage the carbide, but also read that is only if it sits too long. I let the blade soak for a few minutes to soften the gunk, then brush the teeth clean, rinse with water and dry with a shop towel.
          David

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          • cgallery
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2004
            • 4503
            • Milwaukee, WI
            • BT3K

            #6
            I have some of the Rockler concentrated solution, but found 409 works just as well. Later on I found the L.A. cleaner (from the dollar store) works well, too.

            I don't let it sit too long. And I use a nylon brush to scrub 'em.

            The blade lettering can come off, but that hasn't bothered me.

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            • RAFlorida
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 1179
              • Green Swamp in Central Florida. Gator property!
              • Ryobi BT3000

              #7
              A while back I used regular oven cleaner, which worked.

              But my neighbor gave what he had left of CMT 2050, and from then on that's what I use. Some good stuff and it's not harsh as oven cleaner.

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              • MilDoc

                #8
                Originally posted by crokett
                I've always just used Simple Green and a nylon bristle brush or firm toothbrush. The lettering only comes off if you let it soak too long. I've heard Simple Green can damage the carbide, but also read that is only if it sits too long. I let the blade soak for a few minutes to soften the gunk, then brush the teeth clean, rinse with water and dry with a shop towel.
                Right. From the Simple Green site:

                "BLADES, CARBIDE & SAW BLADES
                Simple Green has been successfully used by many woodworkers over many years as a good "spray - wipe - rinse" cleaner for saw blades. When pitch is fairly fresh (typically within a 12-hr period since deposit) it is fairly easily removed with Simple Green. Older, dried-out pitch is much more difficult to remove. We do not recommend long-term soaking of Carbide blades in Simple Green. Long-term exposure like this can possibly cause cobalt leaching that will, in turn, affect the integrity or carbide. Shorter term "spray/wipe/rinse" applications do not create that kind of problem.

                It has been reported to us that long-term soaking of carbide blades covered with older, tougher buildup of pitch in strong, black coffee does a great job of removing pitch without harming the blade."


                Interesting about the strong coffee. That wasn't on their web page before. Anyone try it????

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                • Knottscott
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 3815
                  • Rochester, NY.
                  • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

                  #9
                  I've tried several solutions and most seemed to work well, so I tend to go with the cheapest and easiest.....409, Simple Green, LA's Totally Awesome (< $2), Greased Lightning, etc. Goo Gone citrus cleaner is also very good ($1), Dawn detergent and hot water worked well, Boeshield bladenbit cleaner works well but is pricey, Easy Off works well but is the messiest and is harsh.

                  I use the top from a 5 gallon bucket to hold the blade while I spray it with degreaser, hit it with a tooth brush or brass bristle brush, rinse and wipe...5 minutes start to finish.

                  The only blade I've ever had the writing come off on was a DeWalt Precision Trim blade....not the end of the world, but disappointing just the same. The writing is intact with all my other blades....especially those with engraved letters!
                  Last edited by Knottscott; 06-19-2008, 04:23 PM.
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                  • Ed62
                    The Full Monte
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6021
                    • NW Indiana
                    • BT3K

                    #10
                    For the cleaners you guys listed, how are you supposed to dispose of the used cleaner? I know some are environmentally friendly, while others should go to a household collection site.

                    I was just reading an article in one of the mags about this. It said a mix of baking soda and water worked well if the blade is soaked for 8 hours. I haven't tried it yet, but if I can find something to soak it in, I might clean a blade while I'm sleeping. If I do, I'll report back tomorrow.

                    Ed
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                    • crokett
                      The Full Monte
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 10627
                      • Mebane, NC, USA.
                      • Ryobi BT3000

                      #11
                      Ed,

                      That is why I use Simple Green. Easy to dispose of. Other chemicals I save and then take to the landfill every once in a while - households can drop off chemicals for free.
                      David

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                      • Ed62
                        The Full Monte
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6021
                        • NW Indiana
                        • BT3K

                        #12
                        I just found my new blade cleaner

                        I used 3/4 cup of baking soda, mixed with 3/4 cup of water. I put the blade in a 5 gallon bucket (it just fit), and left it overnight. Actually it was soaking for 10 hours because I put it in a while before going to bed. When I rinsed it off, it was almost clean, without any scrubbing at all. The little bit that was left could be taken off with my fingernail. Very cool!!

                        Ed
                        Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                        For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                        • Knottscott
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 3815
                          • Rochester, NY.
                          • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ed62
                          For the cleaners you guys listed, how are you supposed to dispose of the used cleaner? I know some are environmentally friendly, while others should go to a household collection site.

                          I was just reading an article in one of the mags about this. It said a mix of baking soda and water worked well if the blade is soaked for 8 hours. I haven't tried it yet, but if I can find something to soak it in, I might clean a blade while I'm sleeping. If I do, I'll report back tomorrow.

                          Ed
                          Hi Ed - I don't soak the blades in cleaning solution, and use literally just a few sprays...likely a teaspoon or two. Then it gets rinsed down the sink drain....it never entered my mind that it could be harmful.
                          Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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                          • dkerfoot
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1094
                            • Holland, Michigan
                            • Craftsman 21829

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dustmight
                            Hi Ed - I don't soak the blades in cleaning solution, and use literally just a few sprays...likely a teaspoon or two. Then it gets rinsed down the sink drain....it never entered my mind that it could be harmful.
                            I would be much more concerned about storing a mixture of different chemicals for "safe" disposal.
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                            • pecker
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 388
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                              #15
                              "Interesting about the strong coffee. That wasn't on their web page before. Anyone try it????"

                              That's how my desk at work gets cleaned...whenever I spill some coffee on it and wipe it up, the dirt comes with it.

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