Hitachi 10FSH - problem or not?

[footprintsinconc]

i was trying to set my miter saw, the hitachi 10FSH, on the miter saw stand.

when i have the blade down and pushed back (still have 3/4" or 1/2" to push back), the blade touches this gray piece. it seem to be made out of plastic, but am not sure. there is another angled piece behind it. it seems like the blade should stop at that angled piece instead.

there is nothing about this in the manual. do you know if what is happening is correct? is the blade suppose to cut through it the first time i use it? what is its purpose? anyone who has a saw like this, do you have the same thing happening to you?

thanks,

[footprintsinconc]

i forgot to attache a picture:

[newbie2wood]

I don't have a Hitachi and have never seen that piece before on any other miter saw.

Your post peaked my curiosity, and I looked up the info. It appears to be a splinter guard and cut alignment.

Instruction for setting up the guard from http://toolrepairexperts.com/support...shc10fsbtd.pdf :

(1) Groove cutting in guard and table insert
There is a plastic guard mounted in holder (A) (Fig. 28).
To allow accurate grooving of the guard with the saw
blade that is actually going to be used on the machine, the
groove is not precut at the factory. Please follow the
procedures below to make a groove in the guard. In order
to cut a groove in the guard at a constant speed, press a
workpiece of 35-mm (1-3/8") square against the fence and
clamp it in position with the vise ass'y. Loosen the 6-mm
knob bolt and press the guard against the workpiece then
secure it in position. Slide the motor head up to the upper
limit position. Turn on the switch, and after the saw blade
has reached sufficient rotation speed, press the handle
down slowly and slide it as far as it will go to cut a groove
in both the guard and the workpiece.
[CAUTION] As the guard may be damaged or broken if the groove is cut too quickly, the customer
should be advised to perform this operation slowly and smoothly
________
HornyBigTits

[footprintsinconc]

thanks! and another question

thanks a bundle! i need to print this manual instead. i still cannot find any mention in the manual that came with the saw . that guard is like more than an inch away from the fence. i did not measure it, but i will.

while we are at it, i have another question:

when the machine is bolted onto a saw stand, the U shaped stabilizer bar at the doesnt touch anything. so i guess, the bar is not needed since it is bolted. the manual doesnt say anything about this. they say to bolt the machine to the table and put the U bar to help stabilize the power tool.

[Agg97]

i forgot to attache a picture:

Omar,

Got your PM. I bought this saw a couple of weeks ago at Lowe's. I'll try to take a picture of it later, but don't have any way to upload it to my computer right now. I'll describe it best I can.

There is a piece there, but it looks different from yours. First off, there's no brass screw on it. Secondly, there is a slot on the front side and I never had to cut through it. It is that light gray/cream color that is on the front of yours throughout the whole piece. When the saw is fully retracted, it is about 1/2" deep in that slot.

Not sure if it's a design change and we got different editions or what. Like I said, I'll try to post a picture but it will be Monday at the earliest. Sorry I couldn't help more. Good luck!

Steve

[Agg97]

thanks a bundle! i need to print this manual instead. i still cannot find any mention in the manual that came with the saw . that guard is like more than an inch away from the fence. i did not measure it, but i will.

while we are at it, i have another question:

when the machine is bolted onto a saw stand, the U shaped stabilizer bar at the doesnt touch anything. so i guess, the bar is not needed since it is bolted. the manual doesnt say anything about this. they say to bolt the machine to the table and put the U bar to help stabilize the power tool.

There's a bolt that locks that u bar. Loosen it, then extend the u bar until it touches the table, and finally tighten the bolt again. . The holes are at an angle so it will eventually hit the table.

Steve

[SARGE..g-47]

i was trying to set my miter saw, the hitachi 10FSH, on the miter saw stand.

when i have the blade down and pushed back (still have 3/4" or 1/2" to push back), the blade touches this gray piece. it seem to be made out of plastic, but am not sure. there is another angled piece behind it. it seems like the blade should stop at that angled piece instead.

there is nothing about this in the manual. do you know if what is happening is correct? is the blade suppose to cut through it the first time i use it? what is its purpose? anyone who has a saw like this, do you have the same thing happening to you?

thanks,

My first comment is ... That's a zero clearance insert, Omar. First.. if you haven't cut into it and are going to change the blade.. take it off until you have the blade on you intend to use. If you are going to use the Hitachi blade... crank it up and fire away.

You then have zero clearance with that nylon guide and a cut reference to where the blade is going to touch each forward slide. And if you do cut into it and change blades latter with a different configuration on the new blade.. the inserts are removable and a new solid replacement available from a Hitachi Service Center for a couple of $$. Just order one or in my case, I get in my truck and drive 8 miles down the street to the Hitachi National Service Center here in Atlanta.

Don't feel bad BTW.. there is a funny story about the first lawn-mower I ever had with a rear bagger and emptying the bag. I should keep my mouth shut on that one... as how I did it was rather stupid and took about 5 or 6 minutes as I reached in the mouth opening and pulled the cut grass out one handful at a time. All the while thinking there has got to be a better way.

The next day when I mentioned it at work.. the guys laughed their hinny off and told me about the Zipper in the rear of the bag. Aw..... shut up! ha.. ha... ha.. ha..ha..

[footprintsinconc]

thanks for the reply steve. i would like to see the pictures once you post them.

when i installed it on the miter saw folding stand (delta one), the back of the saw is pretty much at the back of the stand. so there is nothing for it rest on once the U bar is pulled back.

since it is bolted, i was thinking that i dont need that U bar for stability. this must be on other miter saws as well?

[footprintsinconc]

double post from 6pm!

[footprintsinconc]

WOW! this is weird. i must have typed the last answer around 6pm, before sarge even answered my post. then i went to post a new post, and it double posted the 6pm post!

john, thanks for the infor. i will order a couple of those zero clearance inserts. i dont know what type of blade i am going to use. i have some reading to do now.

its is embarrassing to find out that it was such a simple thing. thanks for sharing your very funny story!

i guess, i should share my first screw up in setting up the saw: after i took the saw out of the box, i set the manual aside, saying that i will read it before i turn on the saw, but not before i bolt it onto the miter stand that i had. for the life of me, i couldnt figure out how the dam* thing would turn (horizontally). i pulled the lever and tried and tried. then i just ended up just forcing it into the 90 position. it took some force but not a too much. so long story short, when i came across this 2nd problem, i said, well it time to open the book, and guess what i found, i was suppose to unscrew the handle, which would release the horizontal movement! so there, i am now really feeling embarrassed!

well, got to go, my wife is wondering why i am on this site for most of the day!

[Coolmeadow Creations]

Footprintsinconc, sorry I'm late to the party, and answering your PM. I just got in and read it. The other answers are correct. I believe it is addressed in the manual. I did cut in with the Hitachi blade, thinking it appears to be a thin kerf, and a full kerf blade I might replace it with should recut it and be ok. If not, it is replacable.
I've been out building the mobile stand for mine. I too have it bolted down and did not use the u-bar in the back. Jim.