HVLP spray gun advice needed

[vtv010]

Hi,
i just managed to get a good deal on Campbel Hausfeld HV2511 turbine - 5psi, 58cfm, 2 stage. Is there a recommendation for a reasonably priced spray gun to match the turbine?
Thanks,
Tony

[Jeffrey Schronce]

This is the gun that normally is sold with that 2 stage turbine . . .

http://www.amazon.com/Campbell-Hausf...3204157&sr=1-6

However you are not stuck with CH, rather you can use practically any gun.

I use this set up and the gun is awesome . . .

http://www.amazon.com/Turbinaire-TSG...3204283&sr=1-7

[vtv010]

Any info on this spray gun?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Spray...spagenameZWDVW

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Any info on this spray gun?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Spray...spagenameZWDVW

I doubt you will find any hands on experience with that specific gun, however I opened the product links manual. Reviewing the manual and based upon the photos on the site it looks like a quite good gun. Now, it could be pure crap when you get it, but if it is as solid as it appears to be and is well made then it certainly has the technical specs to be a good gun.

In fact it looks A LOT like my Turbinaire gun! You may want to check with the seller and find out how much the different needles cost. Single units are $100 and two packs are $160 for my gun! Thus I have not bought a couple of sizes that I really want.

[vtv010]

thanks! i did the search for the gun maker and found the website.... An aircup/niddle $30 i believe... and selection appears to be good.... More expensive than CH ($19). they also sell complete units - turbine/hose/gun.

stull undecided, but ability to submerse is attractive... I hope someone has hands on experience... Also, they do not say what is in the box, tools, cleanink kit, viscosity cup, etc... I may need to call them

[vtv010]

Jeffrey, I re-reread your comments once more, thank you... Also, i read the manual and the gun assemly much more carefuly... It appears that the gun does not have the air volume adjustment, just material... Is that important?

Thanks,
Tony

[JimD]

I use a Wagner conversion gun from Gleem Paint. There is a turbine version of the same gun, however. The conversion gun is about $125 and has adjustments for pattern orientation and size, air volume, and finish volume. It also has interchangeable nozzle sets (they aren't cheap, however costing around $75 for a new set). I have sprayed Polycrylic and am currently spraying Resisthane with the stock set of nozzles in the conversion gun. I am not very experienced with spray equipment but I think my Wagner is pretty nice.

Jim

[Jeffrey Schronce]

I use a Wagner conversion gun from Gleem Paint. There is a turbine version of the same gun, however. The conversion gun is about $125 and has adjustments for pattern orientation and size, air volume, and finish volume. It also has interchangeable nozzle sets (they aren't cheap, however costing around $75 for a new set). I have sprayed Polycrylic and am currently spraying Resisthane with the stock set of nozzles in the conversion gun. I am not very experienced with spray equipment but I think my Wagner is pretty nice.

Jim

Man, I completely forgot about the Wagner from Gleem Paint. There are a ton of folks who use the conversion gun and love it. I am sure the turbine gun is equally as good.

[gordons]

I purchased the Capspray HVLP CS9100 from Gleem about a year ago. Went for the two gun package and an additional nozzle one size up from standard supplied. Guns are Maxum II cup model. I use them exclusively to spray latex paints and they perform very well for my purpose. As with any equipment of this ilk, you have to clean and look after and get to know its quirks and settings. Although this equipment is on the expensive side, it has pretty much paid for itself in reliability and quality. I can highly recommend it.

Here is the link: http://www.gleempaint.com/cs9100hvlpnew.html

[vtv010]

All, thanks for the tips, I would love to obtain one of those units, but not sure i can justify $ in my mind. Wagner looks like an excellent gun, but it is $175 and i closest contender.
Still $100 gun is easer to justify.. the question is - is air control ultimately important or it is one of these features one can easily live without... everything else appears to be in place, including good selections of niddle/air cup combinations.

thanks
Tony

[Andrew Benedetto]

http://www.gleempaint.com/hvcongunnew.html
The Maxum II is a updated version of the NBC gun. (NBC gun came with CS5000,8000,9000 units and the new Wagner SoftSpray HVLP uses the NBC gun) The only difference you will notice between the Maxum gun vs the NBC gun is the Maxum gun has a multi-position pick-up tube for longer use without refilling the cup when spraying at angles (floors, ceilings), slightly larger air passage ways, plus the Maxum gun has a different air valve adjustment knob. Otherwise they are the same high quality guns. Click on the little picture at top of page for more detailed information.


$125 not $175 and you have the ability to use an aircompressor too. The turbine you bought will not be good with latex anyway unless you really thin it . I have a 2 stage Wagner eagle1 with over twice the cfm and psi you have and I can not get good results w. latex. Fine finish is very good. To use the conversion gun on a turbine you just need to buy a male fitting for you air hose in place of the regulator.
I prefer the AC over the turbine anyway, much more control over the adjustments and I hate the all the noise of the turbines, drag of the heavy hose uses way more electricity too. The ebay gun I would not buy myself, better off with a HFT brand , at least you can return it . Also if that handle is metal it will get very haot with a turbine. HVLP guns usu. have a plastic or insulated handle. My wagner gun is 15 years old and I have sprayed cars, MC's, and wood finishes. All I have ever heard from users is good things. Parts are easily available.
I have a external pressure pot which I use with the turbine to spray heavy latex w. a #4 projector set. I tee in a second blower(converted shopvac )to have a 3 stage effect if I do not want to thin at all or have a large job, that will up the psi/cfm's.

[vtv010]

Andrew, thank you very much for the tip... I did not think this was an option to use a conversion gun with turbine. I did not think it would run of 5 psi. I am new to spray painting, where can i get that mail connector required for use with turbine?

Would you knw what is the difference between conversion and turbine NBC Wagner guns then ($129 vs $175), aside from turbine being able to be set up as bleedeer and non-bleeded gun, and the connector itself?

thanks
Tony

[Andrew Benedetto]

http://www.gleempaint.com/quicdismalth.html

That is the quick disconect male.

http://www.gleempaint.com/nbc-nb-gun-parts.html
Here is the extensive available parts and manuals[ .pdf files] so you can read about it.

Amazon has some comments, the plastic handle is a complaint, but it is only $4 as a part. I have has no problem w. mine and as I said it will get hot from the turbine air if it is metal.
The $125 gun is just fine and can be used as a Bleeder ,mounting the hose at the top, or NB at the handle. Bleeder use maybe best for your 2 stage if you want to spray heavier materials and it is much easier on the turbine.
Re-read my " on my post ,from their comment on the 2 guns.
Gleem is excellent w. CS help. Give them a call and they can help best. The original gun is very good and can do just about anything in terms of materials and pattern. They only complaint I have is that cleaning it can be a bit of a pain.

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/indus...sectionID=1497

Here is a review on hi-priced systems, the CAP gun is in there too.

[vtv010]

Phoned Gleem with the intent to buy a Wagner conversion gun, started talking to them and they told me that IF i wanted to use this gun with the turbine, i would need to replace projector set - need larger orifices for airflow... Confused again.

[JimD]

Will they swap the jets for you? They sell different sized sets so they might sell you a gun with the size jets they recommend for your application. I have the conversion gun with the stock jet setup and it works well for me (I drive it with a little compressor).

Jim