Grizzly 1023..."Not me, not now"

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  • Knottscott
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 3815
    • Rochester, NY.
    • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

    #1

    Grizzly 1023..."Not me, not now"

    I stumbled into a "woodworker's garage sale" today where there was a 10 year old Griz 1023 with an updated SF Classic fence. He had added a motor cover and a mobile base and wanted $500, which seemed fair to me. I was pretty tempted, and waffled back and forth about it for a while this afternoon. I even called once to tell him I wanted it, but he didn't answer. The bottom line is that I don't want to part with my 22124. Not only does it do what I need, but I enjoy using it every time I fire it up, and there's alot to be said for that feeling for a hobbyist. My brain knows that the 1023 is more substantial, but it also knows that I don't need more, and frankly don't want to be bothered with the effort to switch...my wwing season is short enough as it is.

    I'm fairly attached to my 22124...the whole adventure of stumbling into that deal was an unbelievable experience, and I've grown increasingly fond of it ever since.

    It almost seems sacreligious but I'm gonna have to pass this time...it just doesn't "feel" right...."not me, not now!"
    Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.
  • sweensdv
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 2872
    • WI
    • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

    #2
    To paraphrase that great philosopher Popeye The Sailor Man, "You is what you is and that's all that you is, you're Dusmight The Zip Code man."
    Last edited by sweensdv; 08-11-2007, 04:33 PM. Reason: Spelling Correction
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    • Knottscott
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 3815
      • Rochester, NY.
      • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

      #3
      Originally posted by sweensdv
      To paraphrase that great philosopher Popeye The Sailor Man, "You is what you is and that's all the you is, you're Dusmight The Zip Code man."
      A couple of "toot toot"s came to mind at the end of that!
      Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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      • messmaker
        Veteran Member
        • May 2004
        • 1495
        • RICHMOND, KY, USA.
        • Ridgid 2424

        #4
        That is a really tough call but you already have a nice saw with good dust collection. The Griz is probably right tilt if that means a lot to you. It might be worth buying just to re-sell.
        spellling champion Lexington region 1982

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        • Uncle Cracker
          The Full Monte
          • May 2007
          • 7091
          • Sunshine State
          • BT3000

          #5
          There's a lot to be said for a tool that's already set up, tuned up, and does everything you ask it to do. Don't be remorseful. You did what felt right, and that's the way it should be.

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          • gwyneth
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1134
            • Bayfield Co., WI

            #6
            Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
            There's a lot to be said for a tool that's already set up, tuned up, and does everything you ask it to do. Don't be remorseful. You did what felt right, and that's the way it should be.
            There's also a lot to be said for the quick internal calculation of paying what is essentially a lot for what is essentially a small gain.

            Then there's this, which may or may not sound silly...tools are extensions of ourselves (either multiplying our own labor or converting it). To avoid disasters, we develop sixth, seventh, and eighth senses that we are barely aware of about our tools' conditions, setups, and a number of intangible factors.

            I think there's an excellent chance that your sixth, seventh, and eighth senses were warning you that something is...off, or not right about the saw you were thinking of buying. Instead of screaming, "buy me!", it was whispering, "no...not me".

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            • Jeffrey Schronce
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 3822
              • York, PA, USA.
              • 22124

              #7
              Having had a 22124 up until about a month ago, then "upgrading" to Delta X5 Unisaw I know where you are coming from. The 22124 is a good saw with a great fence. It is a little taller than the average cabinet saw which I really liked. The Uni feels a little short to me. I upgraded to the Uni as I was looking for 50" rails and 3hp motor. I actually did run into power issues with the 22124 but in all fairness I was doing a lot of work with very hard wood (white oak and maple) and was not very diligent about changing from combo blade to rip blade when ripping 12/4 material.

              The only reason I can see to upgrade is for more HP or longer fence. Of course it would take a good deal to make even that a worth while move. Naturally I stole my Uni from Amazon so it made the decision easier for me. I "needed" the 50" rails and the higher HP so the move made sense to me. If you are dealing with S4S 3/4 material 90% of the time and you don't have a lot of wide panels then the upgrade makes little sense IMHO.

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              • Knottscott
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 3815
                • Rochester, NY.
                • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

                #8
                Originally posted by Jeffrey Schronce
                Having had a 22124 up until about a month ago, then "upgrading" to Delta X5 Unisaw I know where you are coming from. The 22124 is a good saw with a great fence. It is a little taller than the average cabinet saw which I really liked. The Uni feels a little short to me. I upgraded to the Uni as I was looking for 50" rails and 3hp motor. I actually did run into power issues with the 22124 but in all fairness I was doing a lot of work with very hard wood (white oak and maple) and was not very diligent about changing from combo blade to rip blade when ripping 12/4 material.

                The only reason I can see to upgrade is for more HP or longer fence. Of course it would take a good deal to make even that a worth while move. Naturally I stole my Uni from Amazon so it made the decision easier for me. I "needed" the 50" rails and the higher HP so the move made sense to me. If you are dealing with S4S 3/4 material 90% of the time and you don't have a lot of wide panels then the upgrade makes little sense IMHO.
                I'm pretty sure that if that 1023 had been a 3hp Uni w/50" fence I'd have made the switch. With a good 24T TK ripper I've been able to chew thru pretty thick stuff with no major hesitation or burning, but it definitely bogs more with a 40T blade if I cut 2" + stock.
                Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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