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  • footprintsinconc
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1759
    • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
    • BT3100

    #1

    spray gun

    hello everyone,

    just having setup my 60 gal compressor, i am now thinking of buying a spray gun. air volume isnt going to be an issue, since i get about 10.5scfm at 90psi. i dont know anything about them, this would be a first time.

    i want to spray projects using latex paints, polyurethane, etc. what type of gun am i suppose to look for? is there anything that i need to keep in mind when trying to find a suitable spray gun? what about the spray guns at harbor freight? would you buy a used gun or not?

    i thank all of you in advance for your help.

    regards,
    _________________________
    omar
  • Sawatzky
    Established Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 359
    • CA
    • Ridgid TS3650

    #2
    I have a Husky genreal purpose gun that I bought at HD for about $60.00. I have only sprayed semi gloss finish through it, but it has worked well for me.

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    • wardprobst
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 681
      • Wichita Falls, TX, USA.
      • Craftsman 22811

      #3
      I'd look for HVLP conversion gravity gun- I don't have any experience with Harbor Freight guns but I know they sell them. Another option is a Reduced Pressure conventional gun which will also keep the overspray down. Conventional guns waste too much material and create too much overspray. I've used DeVilbiss, Fuji, Sata, and Astro Pnuematic guns. The Astro Pneumatic are good value, realtively low cost Tawainese guns. Best place I know of to shop online is http://www.spraygunworld.com/. I'm assuming you are on a budget but if not check out the SATA and CAT guns, they are way cool!! Sharpe, Binks and DeVilbiss all make real decent guns, just depends on your budget.
      Hope this helps,
      DP
      www.wardprobst.com

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      • Pappy
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 10481
        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 (x2)

        #4
        Keep the conventional, cup fed guns for use with primers or other heavier paints. Laquers or other finish coats lay best with gravity fed, HVLP guns.

        Of the brands mentioned, I would suggest the DeVilbiss guns. I'm not familiar the Sharpe, but the Binks guns are high end (and high $$$). The devilbiss are reasoanbly priced and still excellent guns.
        Don, aka Pappy,

        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
        Fools because they have to say something.
        Plato

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        • footprintsinconc
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 1759
          • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
          • BT3100

          #5
          thanks for the information so far!

          i am on a budget (since december last year, i have just been buying this and that and wife has had it enough). DP, i will check out that website. when you say conventional guns, what does that mean? how do i know if the gun that i am looking for is a "Reduced Pressure conventional gun"?

          Pappy, when you say "cup fed", is that with a can at the bottom of the gun? will look into the devilbiss guns too.

          thanks,
          _________________________
          omar

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          • MikeMcCoy
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2004
            • 790
            • Moncks Corner, SC, USA.
            • Delta Contractor Saw

            #6
            Originally posted by footprintsinconc
            thanks for the information so far!

            i am on a budget (since december last year, i have just been buying this and that and wife has had it enough). DP, i will check out that website. when you say conventional guns, what does that mean? how do i know if the gun that i am looking for is a "Reduced Pressure conventional gun"?

            Pappy, when you say "cup fed", is that with a can at the bottom of the gun? will look into the devilbiss guns too.

            thanks,
            Have you decided on the kind of gun you want yet? I have a conventional conversion gun (HF) that I don't use and you are welcome to (I switched to an HVLP turbine). I won't get home for a few more days and then need to figure out where it is but it's still in the box. I'll get a model number as soon as I get home if you are interested.

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            • footprintsinconc
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 1759
              • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
              • BT3100

              #7
              Mike,

              no i havent decided, actually i am going to start looking. i just dont know what to look for. i was looking for guidance / direction when searching for a spray gun and all.

              thanks. sure, i'll take the HF spray gun. that will give me a start and some experience. let me know what the model number is. thanks once again.

              regards,
              _________________________
              omar

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              • wardprobst
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 681
                • Wichita Falls, TX, USA.
                • Craftsman 22811

                #8
                Omar,
                Conventional guns are listed as such- the transfer rate of material is lower usually around 40% at the best, often much less. HVLP guns should transfer about 65% of the material to your work, sometimes more. The conventional wisdom is that it is easier to get a good finish with the conventional guns because they atomize better so the industry came up with a conventional gun that shoots at a reduced pressure to get better transfer rates but not as low as HVLP so the atomization is better.
                Pappy- DeVillbiss has some high priced stuff, Binks has a lower line, Sharpe has been around for 100 years, almost as long as the other two and is owned by Graco.
                Hope this helps,
                DP
                www.wardprobst.com

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                • Tom Slick
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 2913
                  • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                  • sears BT3 clone

                  #9
                  go to your local automotive paint supplier and discuss guns with them.
                  I have a devilbiss finishline hvlp gravity feed gun that gets the job done.
                  you might want to look at a hvlp detail gun. most of the projects I work on I never need the 1 qt capacity my full sized gun has. a 1 pt capacity would be excellent.
                  Binks and devilbiss are both owned by ITW and have very similar products at lower levels.
                  Warwick makes a great gun at a moderate price.
                  I know pro painters that have used HF guns and say that they aren't the best but they work really well for the money.

                  it is easier to see you work with a traditional gun, the cup on a gavity feed is in your line of sight if you like to look over the top of the gun for detail work.
                  Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                  • MikeMcCoy
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 790
                    • Moncks Corner, SC, USA.
                    • Delta Contractor Saw

                    #10
                    Omar,
                    I'll PM that model number to you when I get home. That should be sometime Saturday unless something comes up.

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                    • MikeMcCoy
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 790
                      • Moncks Corner, SC, USA.
                      • Delta Contractor Saw

                      #11
                      Omar,
                      I have a room full of boxes and the box I thought had the conversion gun in it --- didn't. If I run across it I'll let you know but I don't have room to move everything till I get moved. The only HF gun I've found so far is the Model 30224 which is a high pressure gun. It would do fine on a car but I don't think I would try furniture with it.

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                      • footprintsinconc
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1759
                        • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
                        • BT3100

                        #12
                        thanks for looking. let me know when ever. i use to love moving, but since we moved into our house, i am starting to dread a move already. so happy moving!

                        regards,
                        _________________________
                        omar

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                        • p8ntblr
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 921
                          • So Cal
                          • Craftsman 22114

                          #13
                          One of the best reviewed conversion gun I've seen.
                          http://www.gleempaint.com/hvcongunnew.html

                          Also alot of peeps seem to like the critter
                          http://www.amazon.com/Critter-Spray-...8325149&sr=8-3

                          I would get a filter as well. HF has one with a combo oiler. But I've heard comments that some times the oil leeks through. Any box store should carry a filter only.
                          -Paul

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                          • JimD
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4187
                            • Lexington, SC.

                            #14
                            I have the Wagner conversion gun. I got it from gleempaint. It is the least expensive gun I found that you could switch jets in. I haven't done it but it's nice to know if I want to paint a car or spray latex without thinning I can get jets to do it.

                            It is a pressure feed. The regulated air pressure forces the finish from the cup into the gun. It is supposed to work better with heavier finishes. With the stock jets I have sprayed Minwax water based poly but I like Resisthane, a pre-catalyzed lacquer that is water based. It does not work with a brush as well but sprays significantly better. And it is cheap, about $20/gallon delivered. Rated as a kitchen cabinet finish so it's also pretty tough. Dries in an hour.

                            Anyway, you didn't ask about finish but about guns. I have not tried a lot of guns but I like my Wagner. I run it on a little Bostitch compressor with a 6 gallon tank. The conpressor runs a lot but it works. I run about 40psi or more in the line and regulate at the gun down to about 20 psi.

                            Jim

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