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  • p8ntblr
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 921
    • So Cal
    • Craftsman 22114

    #1

    Good price for used Jet TS?

    Considering selling my Delta to get a more complete saw. What do you think of this Jet TS? Lowest he's willing to go is $450. Good price?


    Jet contractor model 10 inch ALL Cast Iron top
    Includes:
    - Two cast iron wings (not stamped steel)
    - 1 1/2 HP motor
    - Upgraded Linked belt
    - Jet Fence and Rockler Router table extension.
    - Mobile base
    - 10" carbide combination blade.
    - Jet Miter Gauge
    - Dust collection 4" port.
    - Splitter blade gaurd
    - Blade Wrench
    - Owners Manual
    Attached Files
    Last edited by p8ntblr; 02-10-2007, 07:55 AM.
    -Paul
  • cgallery
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 4503
    • Milwaukee, WI
    • BT3K

    #2
    The newer Jet JTS-10 contractor saws are hybrids. The motor is INSIDE the cabinet, and the blade is shrouded for EXCELLENT dust collection.

    The benefit of the hybrid is that the motor doesn't torque the trunions unevenly when cutting bevels.

    In the older saw you show here, precisely aligning the blade to the miter slot is a compromise. If you get it perfect when the blade is set to 90-degrees, adjusting the blade to 45-degrees (for example) will unevenly torque the front and back trunions and you may now find the alignment out by several thousandths. This is because of the way the motor extends out the back of the saw.

    I would say it is a good saw, but I'd rather have the hybrid version. The least expensive hybrid version is $400, and it comes w/ stamped extensions and a so-so fence. But I'd use table boards in place of the extensions and buy a better fence (probably used).

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    • BrazosJake
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 1148
      • Benbrook, TX.
      • Emerson-built Craftsman

      #3
      Originally posted by cgallery
      The newer Jet JTS-10 contractor saws are hybrids. The motor is INSIDE the cabinet, and the blade is shrouded for EXCELLENT dust collection.

      The benefit of the hybrid is that the motor doesn't torque the trunions unevenly when cutting bevels.

      In the older saw you show here, precisely aligning the blade to the miter slot is a compromise. If you get it perfect when the blade is set to 90-degrees, adjusting the blade to 45-degrees (for example) will unevenly torque the front and back trunions and you may now find the alignment out by several thousandths. This is because of the way the motor extends out the back of the saw.

      I would say it is a good saw, but I'd rather have the hybrid version. The least expensive hybrid version is $400, and it comes w/ stamped extensions and a so-so fence. But I'd use table boards in place of the extensions and buy a better fence (probably used).
      A hybrid for $400? I find that bit hard to believe. The JTS-10 is a benchtop saw.

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      • Knottscott
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 3815
        • Rochester, NY.
        • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

        #4
        Originally posted by BrazosJake
        A hybrid for $400? I find that bit hard to believe. The JTS-10 is a benchtop saw.
        The Jet hybrid for $400 is the 708100. I don't know too much about it, but it does have a solid cast blade shroud and an internal motor. It appears to a full size saw...it does have steel wings though. I thought I saw a post about Sears having a 20% deal on purchases over $300....thought I also saw an additional 10% rebate form, which would make an already attractive price pretty tough to beat.

        http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...id=00999956000

        As far as the saw in the original post goes...nice contractor saw with some nice add-on features. $450 isn't a give away, but it's understandable to ask that price, especially considering that whoever owned it has added the Herculift and a nice router table...they obviously took care of it. The fence is the weak link IMO, but is plenty functional. The reasonable price offers some forgiveness for that, plus it's upgradeable in the future if necessary.

        If I were in your shoes, I'd probably lean toward the 708100 if I could get it for near $300...but I'd want to get a good look at both before deciding. Check your pulse while viewing each one, then buy the one the causes the highest heart rate.
        Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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        • BrazosJake
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 1148
          • Benbrook, TX.
          • Emerson-built Craftsman

          #5
          Dustmight,

          I was all ready to pull the trigger on the baby zip (22104) with the Sears 20% off, only to discover it's not available for local pickup in my area, and freight comes to $215:-( Ditto for the Jet.

          I don't think the 708100 is a hybrid, but just their bare-bones contractor saw with no fence upgrades.

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          • Knottscott
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 3815
            • Rochester, NY.
            • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

            #6
            Originally posted by BrazosJake
            Dustmight,

            I was all ready to pull the trigger on the baby zip (22104) with the Sears 20% off, only to discover it's not available for local pickup in my area, and freight comes to $215:-( Ditto for the Jet.

            I don't think the 708100 is a hybrid, but just their bare-bones contractor saw with no fence upgrades.
            Amazon had it with free delivery for $400 about a week ago...Ace Tool and Hechinger may price match.

            The motor's mounted inside the cabinet as opposed to outboard, so depending on how you define "hybrid"... (which is a whole nuther discussion!)
            You can see alot more detail in the online manual. It has a one piece cast blade shroud connecting the trunnions which is a nice alternative to the connecting rods.
            Last edited by Knottscott; 02-10-2007, 01:11 PM.
            Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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            • cgallery
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2004
              • 4503
              • Milwaukee, WI
              • BT3K

              #7
              Originally posted by BrazosJake
              A hybrid for $400? I find that bit hard to believe. The JTS-10 is a benchtop saw.
              I know, I know, but it IS a hybrid! And a cleverly designed one, too.

              They stock these at Rockler (at least my Rockler). If you have one close-by, take a look at this new Jet. It is a very nice saw (fence excepted).

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              • jussi
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 2162

                #8
                anyone know about the "double-drive power system" the Jet has. How does it compare to a traditional belt-drive? advantages/disadvantages?
                I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                • Knottscott
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 3815
                  • Rochester, NY.
                  • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jussi
                  anyone know about the "double-drive power system" the Jet has. How does it compare to a traditional belt-drive? advantages/disadvantages?
                  I don't know specifically about Jet's dual drive system, but the GI 50-220 and Sunhill hybrids have one. It's said to increase torque.....at least that's what "they" say, and I've never read a complaint for a GI 50-220 owner about lack of power....they usually state having plenty. Never heard of anyone owning the Sunhill version, but the basic saw is about the same as the GI.
                  Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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                  • KHP
                    Handtools only
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 3
                    • Dallas
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrazosJake
                    Dustmight,

                    I was all ready to pull the trigger on the baby zip (22104) with the Sears 20% off, only to discover it's not available for local pickup in my area, and freight comes to $215:-( Ditto for the Jet.

                    I don't think the 708100 is a hybrid, but just their bare-bones contractor saw with no fence upgrades.
                    I looked into the 21104 when Sears website had the 30% off sale late last year. The shipping cost came to $215 also but if you select the 21114 which weighs more than the 21104 ( cast iron instead of steel wings) it's shipping cost is only $65.00. You would think shipping would be the same or less for the 21104.
                    Kevin

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                    • BrazosJake
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 1148
                      • Benbrook, TX.
                      • Emerson-built Craftsman

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KHP
                      I looked into the 21104 when Sears website had the 30% off sale late last year. The shipping cost came to $215 also but if you select the 21114 which weighs more than the 21104 ( cast iron instead of steel wings) it's shipping cost is only $65.00. You would think shipping would be the same or less for the 21104.

                      That's because the 22114 is available for in-store pickup (meaning the stores still stock them). There is no "delivery", they're already in-store, so even the $65 is a rip-off.

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