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  • RJD2
    Forum Newbie
    • Feb 2006
    • 57

    #1

    Wiring?

    I am building a display cabinet, and want to add a surface mounted switch on the outside of the cabinet to control a light plugged into an outlet on the inside of the cabinet. I would appreciate some assistance on wiring it. Thanks.
  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #2
    Originally posted by RJD2
    I am building a display cabinet, and want to add a surface mounted switch on the outside of the cabinet to control a light plugged into an outlet on the inside of the cabinet. I would appreciate some assistance on wiring it. Thanks.
    It's a simple hookup, as the switch interrupts only one of the wires on a two wire line. I've used a small toggle switch like this that fits into a rectangular hole. I've also used a wireless remote controller for either a dimmer, or on/off. With that, you can hide all the wiring and you have no visible switch.

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    • RJD2
      Forum Newbie
      • Feb 2006
      • 57

      #3
      Thanks. I was making it more complicated than it needed to be.

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      • DaveSur
        Forum Newbie
        • Nov 2007
        • 23
        • Ooltewah, TN

        #4
        We have a display cabinet with a touch dimmer switch. You can mount the touch pad in an inconspicuous place and you have three stage lighting in addition to on - off. Just a thought.

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        • woodturner
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2049
          • Western Pennsylvania
          • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

          #5
          Originally posted by RJD2
          I am building a display cabinet, and want to add a surface mounted switch on the outside of the cabinet to control a light plugged into an outlet on the inside of the cabinet. I would appreciate some assistance on wiring it. Thanks.
          I assume the switch you will use is already in an NEC-approved box? All wiring and connections must be in NEC-approved boxes. Boxes and covers are available at any hardware, big box, or electrical supply store.

          There are three wires - a white neutral, a black "hot", and a bare or green ground. The grounds are all connected together. If you are using a single pole switch, the white wires can be connected together, or wired through one side of the switch for a double pole switch. For both switches, the black wires are wired through the conact on the switch.

          It's not simple, but it's not that complicated, either.

          If you will say a little more about what you are wiring up and what switch you are using, we can provide more specific information.
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          Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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          • jdon
            Established Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 401
            • Snoqualmie, Wash.
            • BT3100

            #6
            If you want to avoid the hassle of mounting a box, switch, etc in your display case, an alternative might be an in-line rotary switch like this. Not elegant, but sufficient for a low wattage situation like this.
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            • cabinetman
              Gone but not Forgotten RIP
              • Jun 2006
              • 15216
              • So. Florida
              • Delta

              #7
              Originally posted by woodturner
              There are three wires - a white neutral, a black "hot", and a bare or green ground. The grounds are all connected together. If you are using a single pole switch, the white wires can be connected together, or wired through one side of the switch for a double pole switch. For both switches, the black wires are wired through the conact on the switch.

              It's not simple, but it's not that complicated, either.
              It is simple unless made complicated. Household lighting fixtures use primarily an
              18/2 SPT-2 AWG. which is a two wire, not a three wire.

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              • LarryG
                The Full Monte
                • May 2004
                • 6693
                • Off The Back
                • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                #8
                Originally posted by cabinetman
                Household lighting fixtures use primarily an
                18/2 SPT-2 AWG. which is a two wire, not a three wire.
                He's not switching a "household lighting fixture" (whatever that is, in this context -- a lamp?). Read the OP: he's switching an outlet. To comply with the NEC, the switch and the outlet must be grounded, which requires the third wire.
                Larry

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                • woodturner
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2049
                  • Western Pennsylvania
                  • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jdon
                  If you want to avoid the hassle of mounting a box, switch, etc in your display case, an alternative might be an in-line rotary switch like this. Not elegant, but sufficient for a low wattage situation like this.
                  That's a good option and avoids the complications of wiring in a safe and legal way.

                  Depending on what the OP has in mind, he may also be able to buy a light fixture with the switch already installed. If he can get a commercially available light fixture with switch in the style he wants, that may be the best option.
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                  Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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                  • cabinetman
                    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 15216
                    • So. Florida
                    • Delta

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LarryG
                    He's not switching a "household lighting fixture" (whatever that is, in this context -- a lamp?). Read the OP: he's switching an outlet. To comply with the NEC, the switch and the outlet must be grounded, which requires the third wire.
                    I did read the OP...did you? His words are below, saying he wants to control a light plugged into an outlet on the inside of the cabinet. The outlet could already be there. He's not asking how to switch the outlet.
                    Originally posted by RJD2
                    I am building a display cabinet, and want to add a surface mounted switch on the outside of the cabinet to control a light plugged into an outlet on the inside of the cabinet. I would appreciate some assistance on wiring it. Thanks.
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                    • woodturner
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2049
                      • Western Pennsylvania
                      • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LarryG
                      Read the OP: he's switching an outlet.
                      Given that the outlet is inside the cabinet, and he says he is building the cabinet, that certainly seems like the only accurate interpretation of the OPs words.

                      It would be best, though, if the OP explains in a bit more detail what he has in mind, so we can make sure we are answering the question he asked.
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                      Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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                      • sscherin
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 772
                        • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                        #12
                        I saw some china cabinets a few years ago with touch light controllers..
                        rather than a pad they had the touch sense wire hooked to one of the top hinges..

                        Touch the hinge and the lights come one.. Nice clean setup if you have exposed hinges.
                        William's Law--
                        There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                        cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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