Burn marks in Hard Maple

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  • cork58
    Established Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 365
    • Wasilla, AK, USA.
    • BT3000

    #1

    Burn marks in Hard Maple

    Sooooooo I am building a band-saw box and got some ugly burn marks. It came to mind that I use Shellac grade Alcohol to remove pencil marks and was wondering what effect it would have on burn marks. I can tell you that the sanding went much faster if I let the Alcohol soak on the wood for a few seconds then hit it with the spindle sander. Tried it later when doing hand sanding and got the same results. Can't say it really did anything to the burn marks except to speed up the sanding. Don't really know why, just did.
    Cork,

    Dare to dream and dare to fail.
  • leehljp
    The Full Monte
    • Dec 2002
    • 8768
    • Tunica, MS
    • BT3000/3100

    #2
    Are you saying that the burn marks came from sanding and hand sanding also?
    Hank Lee

    Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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    • Pappy
      The Full Monte
      • Dec 2002
      • 10481
      • San Marcos, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 (x2)

      #3
      I think he is saying the burn marks came from the cutting and soaking in alcohol made it easier to sand out the burn marks.
      Don, aka Pappy,

      Wise men talk because they have something to say,
      Fools because they have to say something.
      Plato

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      • cork58
        Established Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 365
        • Wasilla, AK, USA.
        • BT3000

        #4
        Sorry, the burn marks are from the Band-saw. An 1/8" 14 tpi Craftsman blade. I WILL be getting an Iturra blade very soon. Just wanted to get started before the Iturra blade got here. I have been thinking about the Alcohol. Is it possible that it raises the grain like water but dries so quickly that you don't see it in the end product? I did notice that the sandpaper plugged very quickly if I didn't let it soak in just a little. Just a thought.
        Cork,

        Dare to dream and dare to fail.

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        • chopnhack
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 3779
          • Florida
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          I dont believe the grain is being raised (alcohol is the solvent for NGR dyes). It may act as a temporary lubricant to aid the sanding. You can also try a stearated sandpaper in this case.
          I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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          • JimD
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            • Feb 2003
            • 4187
            • Lexington, SC.

            #6
            A friend of mine makes mandolins. He raises the grain prior to finishing using rubbing alcohol. He says it works the same as water it just dries faster. I never tried it to cut the time sanding out burns but I might.

            Jim

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            • chopnhack
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 3779
              • Florida
              • Ryobi BT3100

              #7
              Rubbing alcohol can have as much as 30% water, which is what's probably raising the grain in that case. The OP mentioned shellac grade alcohol which is denatured, usually cut with methanol or other non water ingredients IIRC.
              I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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              • Armini
                Established Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 120
                • Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

                #8
                I think you are seeing two effects, first some element of the grain being raised, but second a temporary softening of the wood fibres caused by the alcohol. If you are ever using a hand plane to smooth end grain, this is highly recommended.

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