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  • poolhound
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    • Mar 2006
    • 3196
    • Phoenix, AZ
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    #1

    wipe-on removes stain

    I was just testing some stain/finish combinations for some picture frames and found that when I added some wipe on poly to the previously stained sample it was removing some of the stain. I dont recall having this problem before but that could be my dulled brain cells.

    Its pretty cold and even dampish here right now - yes even in Phoenix !! the stain was applied (2 coats) on Sunday so has been drying for at least 36 hrs and its perfectly dry (not at all tacky) to the touch.

    What gives??

    I was going to just apply multiple coats of wipe-on but dont want the stain comming off. Is more drying time going to help or should I spray on some shellac first - I have a can of bullseye spray.
    Jon

    Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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  • downtheroad
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    • Mar 2007
    • 79
    • So. California
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    Probably, what's happening is the solvents in the wipe-on are softening and dissolving the stain. This can happen with brushing finishes, too. In our shop, we would probably spray on a thin barrier coat first to lock in the stain. We spray one to one and a half pound cut Zinsser Seal Coat with a spray gun. Your Zinsser Bullseye shellac should work fine.
    Tony

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    • gsmittle
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      • Aug 2004
      • 2793
      • St. Louis, MO, USA.
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      #3
      +1 on the shellac. Love the stuff!

      BTW, what passes for cold and damp in Phoenix????

      g.
      Smit

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      • RmeDad
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        • Jan 2006
        • 231
        • Scottsdale, AZ
        • BT3100-1

        #4
        He's just a wuss! LOL! It's 53F with 43% humidity.

        I live in Scottsdale and it must be better here!!!!!
        Jack

        Throughout my racing career I was constantly reminded of this: "Keep the pointy end forward and the shiny side up!"

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        • Uncle Hook
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          • Apr 2005
          • 314
          • Mountain Lakes, New Jersey, USA.

          #5
          Originally posted by downtheroad
          In our shop, we would probably spray on a thin barrier coat first to lock in the stain. We spray one to one and a half pound cut Zinsser Seal Coat with a spray gun. Your Zinsser Bullseye shellac should work fine.
          From what I have read, Sealcoat would seem to be the better choice as it's a dexaxed shellac and designed for undercoating. Bullseye has wax in it and a top coat may not stick to it as well.

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          • poolhound
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            • Mar 2006
            • 3196
            • Phoenix, AZ
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            #6
            Originally posted by Uncle Hook
            From what I have read, Sealcoat would seem to be the better choice as it's a dexaxed shellac and designed for undercoating. Bullseye has wax in it and a top coat may not stick to it as well.
            Looks like I will be spraying on a coat or two of shellac first.

            BTW the bullseye spray says it is 100% wax free and is fine to work under poly topcoats.
            Jon

            Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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            • poolhound
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              • Mar 2006
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              • Phoenix, AZ
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              #7
              Originally posted by RmeDad
              He's just a wuss! LOL! It's 53F with 43% humidity.

              I live in Scottsdale and it must be better here!!!!!
              Jack's right but that is cold and damp here relative to the av conditions for the majority of the year in my shop/garage which is 80-90 degrees + with < 10% humidity.
              Jon

              Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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