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  • Tom Slick
    Veteran Member
    • May 2005
    • 2913
    • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
    • sears BT3 clone

    #16
    Originally posted by sparkeyjames
    I like what the person who built that did with the head stock. Redesinging the lower outcropping of the Fender headstock shape and installed 2 tuners for the b and e strings. Consider the idea stolen if I ever get the time to build one.
    OT:

    Leo Fender designed that basic headstock design when he owned Music Man in the 70's then he sold Music Man to Ernie Ball and started G&L. That headstock is a Music Man trademark. Also notice that the truss rod adjustment is at the bottom of the neck between the fretboard and pickups, another trademark. It also has a compensated nut.
    That is a production model guitar from their factory, it can be yours for only $2500.
    Last edited by Tom Slick; 02-04-2008, 07:27 PM.
    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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    • Pappy
      The Full Monte
      • Dec 2002
      • 10490
      • San Marcos, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 (x2)

      #17
      Originally posted by Wood_workur
      I'm actually gonna go with something like a miox between this:
      Not sure you understood my suggestion of finishing with flames. After several years of listening to drums in close proximity, I meant finsh them with FLAMES!

      Don, aka Pappy,

      Wise men talk because they have something to say,
      Fools because they have to say something.
      Plato

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      • sparkeyjames
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1087
        • Redford MI.
        • Craftsman 21829

        #18
        Originally posted by Tom Slick
        OT:

        That is a production model guitar from their factory, it can be yours for only $2500.
        I'd buy a Gretsch before I bought one of those.

        Oh and the truss rod adjustment at the end near the pickups is not trademarked by anyone. It has been used by so many people (including Fender) since the Gibson patent on adjustable truss rods ran out way back in the 30's or 40's.

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        • Tom Slick
          Veteran Member
          • May 2005
          • 2913
          • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
          • sears BT3 clone

          #19
          I didn't mean it was literally a trademark, just a distinct difference from CBS Fenders truss rod adjustment at the top.

          anything gretch and anything music man are two different instruments. different sound, different style, different music...If a gretch is your style I won't argue with that, they are awesome guitars.
          Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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          • downtheroad
            Forum Newbie
            • Mar 2007
            • 79
            • So. California
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #20
            Here's a neat how-to video on doing a sunburst finish by luthier James Condino.
            http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworki....aspx?id=30182

            [QUOTE=Tom Slick;325451]This is some of their handywork. It's Deep Purple Burst... Its Steve Morse's guitar.

            Myself being a guitarist, Steve Morse has been a favorite of mine for 30+ years. Here's some interesting sincronicities for me. I've got 2 family friends that have played with a musician named Morse ....
            •Manuel, a classical guitarist, with Steve Morse, and
            •Eric, a multi-instrumentalist, with Neal Morse (and Dream Theater drummer Mike Portnoy) on the Testimony tour.
            •Also, my brother's friend Matt (by way of their sons playing little league baseball together), has played bass with Neal Morse, and with G3, another project that Steve Morse has been involved with, and....
            •with House of Lords guitarist, Lanny Cordola, who took guitar lessons from me for a short time when he was a teenager.
            Tony

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            • drumpriest
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2004
              • 3338
              • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
              • Powermatic PM 2000

              #21
              This one has gone WAY off topic, all you guitar players! That's an awesome video, thanks for posting it. I was looking at getting a new DW kit with a tobacco fade over waterfall bubinga, not sure how soon though. It's hard to justify as my current DW collector's kit is still sounding good.

              I'll have to play with a finish like that, a piccolo snare has been on my project list for a long time. LOML keeps putting it off with her furniture requests. Pretty awesome that you've got those connections with Neal and Steve Morse. I've met Portnoy, nice guy, great player.
              Keith Z. Leonard
              Go Steelers!

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              • Wood_workur
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 1914
                • Ohio
                • Ryobi bt3100-1

                #22
                Thats an interesting way to do the burst. When I did the burst for my guitar, I put the dark color down, sanded it back like he did, then the same color not as dark went down over the entire body, and then I waited a day for it to dry before I sanded the middle top get the transition to the amberish redish brownish color that I put over everything after sanding.

                but his method gets more of a transition. I might have to do that..... and then again, maybe I'll just go with natural maple.

                Originally posted by drumpriest
                This one has gone WAY off topic, all you guitar players! That's an awesome video, thanks for posting it. I was looking at getting a new DW kit with a tobacco fade over waterfall bubinga, not sure how soon though. It's hard to justify as my current DW collector's kit is still sounding good.

                I'll have to play with a finish like that, a piccolo snare has been on my project list for a long time. LOML keeps putting it off with her furniture requests. Pretty awesome that you've got those connections with Neal and Steve Morse. I've met Portnoy, nice guy, great player.
                1) Pearl Masterworks > DW Collectors
                2) Stave kit > any ply kit
                Alex

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                • drumpriest
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3338
                  • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
                  • Powermatic PM 2000

                  #23
                  "
                  1) Pearl Masterworks > DW Collectors
                  2) Stave kit > any ply kit
                  "

                  Good opinions, but that's what they are, opinions. Like most cabinet saws, drums at that level is a matter of taste. I played on 30 some kits, from different manufacturer's, and liked the sound of the dw collector's set. I then went and toured the factory, and met the people making my drums. The customer service from dw has been outstanding, and I find their hardware light years ahead than pearl, again, in my opinion.

                  You don't just drop 13,000$ without doing some research. Or at least, I don't. I don't pretend to be the authority on which drum is best, nor which drummer. After playing for 28 years, I know what I like in a drum sound, and dw's nailled it.
                  Keith Z. Leonard
                  Go Steelers!

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                  • Wood_workur
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1914
                    • Ohio
                    • Ryobi bt3100-1

                    #24
                    Originally posted by drumpriest
                    "
                    1) Pearl Masterworks > DW Collectors
                    2) Stave kit > any ply kit
                    "

                    Good opinions, but that's what they are, opinions. Like most cabinet saws, drums at that level is a matter of taste. I played on 30 some kits, from different manufacturer's, and liked the sound of the dw collector's set. I then went and toured the factory, and met the people making my drums. The customer service from dw has been outstanding, and I find their hardware light years ahead than pearl, again, in my opinion.

                    You don't just drop 13,000$ without doing some research. Or at least, I don't. I don't pretend to be the authority on which drum is best, nor which drummer. After playing for 28 years, I know what I like in a drum sound, and dw's nailled it.
                    I'm not gonna go off about the taste in drums (at that level it is a personal choice I'll agree) But I am a firm believer that Pearl has the best hardware. I have seen a DW 9000 foot plate snapped in half in person, and their hardware, while it is nice, is the same as every other top of the line piece of hardware, except Pearl. Show me a cymbal tilter like the pearl 2000 series made by DW.
                    Alex

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                    • drumpriest
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3338
                      • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
                      • Powermatic PM 2000

                      #25
                      I've been playing on a 5000 series double pedal for over 10 years and have not had any issues with them. The hardware is quite nice, and paved the way for a lot of other companies.

                      Suffice to say, regardless, you can use what you use, and I can use what I use. I'm sure the Pearl hardware is very nice, and don't care much about it, to be honest, I'd rather play... I like my setup, it's evolved and works for me. End of my involvement in this would be hardware pissing contest.
                      Keith Z. Leonard
                      Go Steelers!

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