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  • kwc
    Forum Newbie
    • Jan 2007
    • 36

    #1

    SketchUp Help

    Calling all SketchUp users---

    I'm trying to use SketchUp to design a hallway sitting bench. As a beginning user of SketchUp, I'm unable to figure out how to precisely align two components. Specifically, I have a horizontal panel (the bench top) and two vertical pieces (the sides) that will be mounted flush with the outside edges of the top--typical carcase construction.

    How can I get the sides to "snap" to the outside edge of the top? It's frustrating dragging these pieces in 3D, rotating, etc. and always having a 1/16" gap or so (or infinitely smaller)!

    Thanks!

    kwc
  • LarryG
    The Full Monte
    • May 2004
    • 6693
    • Off The Back
    • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

    #2
    Originally posted by kwc
    How can I get the sides to "snap" to the outside edge of the top? It's frustrating dragging these pieces in 3D, rotating, etc. and always having a 1/16" gap or so (or infinitely smaller)!
    Odd that you're having trouble; coming from a 20+ year background with CAD, I've found this one of the easier edits in SketchUp.

    First, use the Orbit tool to rotate your model so that you can "see" the two points you want to deal with ... i.e., Point A that you want to snap to Point B.

    Next, use the Select tool (black arrow) to pull a rubber band box around the component you want to move.

    Then position the Select tool pointer at your snapping control point ... a corner, the midpoint of a line, whatever. When you're "on it," you'll see a pop-up message box on screen.

    Hold down the left mouse button and drag the component to wherever you want to snap it to. Again, when you're exactly on the point, you'll see the pop-up message box. When you're there, release the mouse button.

    Sometimes it helps to zoom in really close after doing a preliminary positioning to verify that you've got it right. Also, watch for the on-screen message boxes that say "On Blue Axis" ... "On Red Axis" ... etc, as these can help confirm your alignment.
    Larry

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    • kwc
      Forum Newbie
      • Jan 2007
      • 36

      #3
      Thanks, Larry... but that doesn't seem to work for me!

      I'm obviously missing something. I selected the entire side panel with the "select" tool. But when I move the select arrow anywhere else, including the corner to which I want to move the component, I don't get a pop-up.

      And I can't find any documentation to explain this procedure (which I consider to be fundamental). My background is in Photoshop, which I use a lot for photography; this is considerably different...

      Thank you,
      kwc
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      • JR
        The Full Monte
        • Feb 2004
        • 5636
        • Eugene, OR
        • BT3000

        #4
        I'm having trouble with Sketchup, too. I intend to follow Ray's advice to do all the tutorials. He says they'll get you going quicker than anything else.

        JR
        JR

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        • kwc
          Forum Newbie
          • Jan 2007
          • 36

          #5
          I got it! After selecting the component to move, I needed to choose the "move" tool, then click first on the corner to move, then click on the target location. Works like a charm.

          I've gone through the basic tutorials but it appears I need to go through all the (older, version 5) videos as well. :-)

          Thank you,
          kwc

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          • ejs1097
            Established Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 486
            • Pittsburgh, PA, USA.

            #6
            Glad you got it working. I'm with JR. I downloaded after the last thread but unlike Larry, I have 0 experience with software like this and after the tutorials, I still couldn't draw up a simple bookcase. I gave up. Seems like it's one of those things that you'll have trouble with trying by yourself.
            Eric
            Be Kind Online

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            • RodKirby
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2002
              • 3136
              • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
              • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

              #7
              After 2 days (and the tutorials!), I'm still trying to work out how to draw a simple 2D plan
              Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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              • Russianwolf
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2004
                • 3152
                • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
                • One of them there Toy saws

                #8
                come on guys. I just did a rough sketch of my entire house and yard (complete with tree locations). It's not that hard.
                Mike
                Lakota's Dad

                If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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                • RodKirby
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 3136
                  • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
                  • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

                  #9
                  Sorry - I'm just a little fat Aussie that's obviously slowing down
                  Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                  • TheRic
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1912
                    • West Central Ohio
                    • bt3100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RodKirby
                    Sorry - I'm just a little fat Aussie that's obviously slowing down
                    Rod, I'm sure you could run circles around Russianwolf in several categories!!!

                    I would be happy to help you, but I have not looked at Sketch up YET. It's on my list near the top, but not at THE top at the moment. I'm sure an "expert" will be by shortly to help you out.

                    We all have things that seem simple to us, and others have major problems. On the other side there are things that we have problems with that others think are simple.
                    Ric

                    Plan for the worst, hope for the best!

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                    • kwc
                      Forum Newbie
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 36

                      #11
                      It's coming together okay now... just takes time to ferret out all of the nuances that enable precise measurements and alignment. The tutorials do help, but at some point the light bulb just clicks on.

                      My progress so far is attached.

                      Thanks again,
                      kwc

                      P.S. I'll try to summarize my "discoveries" at some point for other newbies that could benefit from them.
                      Attached Files

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                      • atgcpaul
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 4055
                        • Maryland
                        • Grizzly 1023SLX

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kwc
                        It's coming together okay now... just takes time to ferret out all of the nuances that enable precise measurements and alignment. The tutorials do help, but at some point the light bulb just clicks on.

                        My progress so far is attached.

                        Thanks again,
                        kwc

                        P.S. I'll try to summarize my "discoveries" at some point for other newbies that could benefit from them.
                        Well, you're definitely ahead of the curve on this one. I've tried to work with
                        Sketchup for the past few months and I still can't draw the panels in the
                        vertical plane. I need to do those stinkin' tutorials.

                        Great work so far.

                        Paul

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                        • LarryG
                          The Full Monte
                          • May 2004
                          • 6693
                          • Off The Back
                          • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kwc
                          I got it! After selecting the component to move, I needed to choose the "move" tool
                          Oh crap, you're right, my bad, I completely forgot the critical step of selecting the Move tool. Sorry 'bout that ... but glad you got it working.

                          Everyone else: keep after it, follow the tutorials, learn the basics and build on that. This is really a pretty simple piece of software if you are able to visualize things in 3D, which I think most woodworkers are. If anything, I found my CAD experience a hindrance in that I find myself continually trying to feed SketchUp commands that only DataCAD understands.
                          Larry

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                          • bradley_osu
                            Forum Newbie
                            • May 2006
                            • 76
                            • Columbus, OH
                            • None yet :(

                            #14
                            The tutorials really are great. Don't just use the one that comes with it, download as many as you can off of the sketchup website (http://sketchup.google.com/tutorials.html) and more advanced tutorials if you feel you need it (http://www.caddtutorialsonline.com/s...tutorials.html) and there's also a forum for it (http://forum.sketchup.com/). I'm sure that between just those three resources you can find the answer to anything.

                            I love the program, very intuitive. I've used some graphics software before but never 3d modelling and was able to pick it up very quickly. 3-4 hours after downloading (most of which was spent running back and forth to my basement getting various measurements):



                            This is my basement plan, the black blob to the the left is my electric drumset that I didn't feel like modelling out in detail. So keep with it because making accurate models lets you get a real feel for how everything works and fits. After making the empty basement I was able to make the other components and fit them in the best possible way, then you can actually tour it as if you were walking through the room. Adjustments can be made and you end up with a satisfying job in the end. BTW this basement makeover is still in progress, pics will be posted upon its completion.

                            Keep at it! SketchUp is sweet!

                            Nick
                            Last edited by bradley_osu; 04-12-2007, 09:28 AM. Reason: pic was monstrous

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