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  • Jbridge337
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    • Nov 2004
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    router table dust collection

    Hi, I am planning a router cabinet with an enclolsed area for router with dust collection. I was wondering if there were any opinions on using dust collection port of router (triton 2 1/4 hp) or attaching one of the jointer hoods from the HF kit to the enclosed box. I will also use fence mounted dust collection. Thank you.

    Jim
  • MikeMcCoy
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2004
    • 790
    • Moncks Corner, SC, USA.
    • Delta Contractor Saw

    #2
    A whole lot depends on whether or not you'll be using the same router or not. I just built a box with a dust collection fitting in the bottom since I use a Triton and other routers. That way if I'm doing a project using multiple bits, I just swap out routers and base plates. The Triton dust collection is nice but it's the only router I have with that capability.

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    • Jbridge337
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      • Nov 2004
      • 118
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      #3
      I ordered the Triton specifically for the table. I have a PC 690 I'll use for handheld. I assume there is a tradeoff with the smaller Triton port but getting most at the source, vs. a bigger port (4") but letting any dust fall into the box.

      thanks,
      Jim

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      • eddy merckx
        Established Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 359
        • Western WA
        • Shop Fox Cabinet

        #4
        Hi Jim

        I built an enclosed box for my router table with a 4" dust port. When I ever re-do it, I will change to a vaccuum port on the router. The suction from my dust collector (Jet 1100) isn't near enough to pull down the stream of sawdust when routing a dado. I think it's a better job for the shop vac.

        Eddy

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        • Ken Massingale
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2002
          • 3862
          • Liberty, SC, USA.
          • Ridgid TS3650

          #5
          My Bosch 1617 stays in the router table extension on the TS3650. I built an under-the-table enclosure from sheet metal, and installed a 2.5" vacuum connector. The 2.5" hose runs about 5 ft. to a 2.5 to 4" adaptor and T. The collection is excellent with the HF dust collector. I have 3 2.5" blast gates, one to the TS360, 1 to the under table sheet metal box and 1 to the fence.
          Using the fence with another 2.5" port practically all the dust is captured.

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          • RodKirby
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            • Dec 2002
            • 3136
            • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
            • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

            #6
            Both my tables have a "side port" connection - useful for dado type routing. Hose/nozzle are Festo.


            Last edited by RodKirby; 12-06-2008, 11:28 PM.
            Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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            • Jbridge337
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              • Nov 2004
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              #7
              Originally posted by RodKirby
              Both my tables have a "side port" connection - useful for dado type routing. Hose/nozzle are Festo.

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              Do you get much dust in the box that the router dust shroud misses?

              Thanks,
              Jim

              Oh, wait, you have that magic wood that doesn't make dust.

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              • Tom Miller
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                • Mar 2003
                • 2507
                • Twin Cities, MN
                • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

                #8
                Since my DC setup is based on 4" PVC, I put a 4" port on the back of my router compartment. In the photo, it's at the bottom, and to the left of the router. On the right side is a triangular ramp to keep that corner from filling with chips.

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                On the bifold door to the router compartment (shown partially open) is an adjustable intake port to make sure there's enough air flowing through the system. I have a 2.5" DC port on my router fence, but I only use it as an air supply to guide air down past the bit, and into the router compartment.


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                Regards,
                Tom

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                • RodKirby
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                  • Dec 2002
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                  • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
                  • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jbridge337
                  Do you get much dust in the box that the router dust shroud misses?
                  My guesses:
                  1. Regular routing (edge) - the fence DC gets about 95%
                  2. Enclosed routing (dado type) the side port (shroud) gets about 90%.

                  Good enough for me - easy to clean out what the DC misses
                  Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                  • Jbridge337
                    Established Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 118
                    • GA.

                    #10
                    Thanks for all the responses...I guess part of the challenge will be trying to find small hose and fittings. I may try both routes using a temp. side panel with 4" collector and 1 1/2" hose and see which works better.

                    Thanks again,

                    Jim

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                    • whitecobra
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                      • Aug 2006
                      • 180
                      • 3 Miles from Disney in Orlando
                      • BT3K with most accessories

                      #11
                      Eddy
                      Your 4" is FINE if you step it down to 2" at the housing

                      You are right there is likely not enough pressure at 4" to do a good job BUT there is PLENTY of volume so simply reduce the 4" to a 2" about 12 to 18" before the cabinet.

                      Save all the work in a rebuild

                      Try it you will like it
                      Dr D
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                      If you are in the Orlando area contact me lets get together and talk saw dust (or food or anything else you like except sports)

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                      Dr Dave

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                      • Jbridge337
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                        • Nov 2004
                        • 118
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                        #12
                        I am assuming the "try it" means you have a similar set up...if you do, could you post a picture or two? thanks,

                        jim

                        Originally posted by whitecobra
                        Eddy
                        Your 4" is FINE if you step it down to 2" at the housing

                        You are right there is likely not enough pressure at 4" to do a good job BUT there is PLENTY of volume so simply reduce the 4" to a 2" about 12 to 18" before the cabinet.

                        Save all the work in a rebuild

                        Try it you will like it
                        Dr D

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