I need a chisel that...

[ironhat]

I went to set the raised panel into the rails and stiles and found out that I forgot about the remaining material in the rabbets of the stiles at the point where the rabbet intersects the mortise. The chisel is 1/4" (6mm) and the rabbet is about 1/32" (.5mm??) narrower. I guess could convert a screwdriver into a chisel by grinding a new edge on it but thought I's ask what you have found that works.

TIA,
Chiz

[ironhat]

Nobody has had this issue? I'm surprised although, this probably should have listed this in the tool forum (he said sorting through the screwdrivers).

[onedash]

Not sure what your problem is? Was it all made with a raised panel set?

With mine everything just goes together. can you post a pic?

[SARGE..g-47]

Howdy Ironhat...

Grinding down a point of an old screw-driver shouldl work. Whenever I don't get a clean line with a router bit on any type of cut that involves tight spaces, arcs or curves, I have a set of cheap carvers tools I purchased many years ago that will conform to about any shape. They're like a hole-digger, they just sit there waiting for that special task.

Don't need em most of the time but when those isolated task do arrive.... they're johhny on the spot to take care of business and move on. :>)

Regards for the day or evening...

[crokett]

I need a picture also. I tried drawing one but I am still confused. A rabbett is where one corner of the wood is knocked off. This means one side is open so I am missing how the rabbett is 1/32" narrower than your 1/4" chisel.

[scoly]

Think he's talking groove that the panel edge is enclosed in rather than a rabbit.
I'd just go get a 1/8" chisel but don't know why sharpening and shaping a screwdriver wouldn't work just fine for a one timer.
Steve

[crokett]

Ok. For a one-off a sharpened screwdriver would work but I'd just go get a smaller chisel. Chances are you will need it again some day.

[ironhat]

Apologies, folks, it IS a groove - forgot my terminology. There isn't a woodworking store within an hour of here. I was actually there this weekend and didn't think of this (kicking self in the rear). I may check Lowes later in the week. Thanks for the input on my foggy question.
Chiz

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Apologies, folks, it IS a groove - forgot my terminology. There isn't a woodworking store within an hour of here. I was actually there this weekend and didn't think of this (kicking self in the rear). I may check Lowes later in the week. Thanks for the input on my foggy question.
Chiz

Are you aware of the Woodcraft in Harrisburg? Not that I would drive that far for a chisel, but it should be around 1 hr or so if you need stuff in the future.

Edit : I see from other posts you do go to WC twice per year.

[Tom Miller]

You could always grind your 1/4" chisel to fit, and then replace that with a new 1/4" chisel later (or never); unless it's in a set that you don't want to mess up....

Regards,
Tom (who's keeping an eye out for an 1/8" chisel, himself)

[LarryG]

Tom (who's keeping an eye out for an 1/8" chisel, himself)

Check www.japanwoodworker.com -- but bring money. Lots and lots of money.

Actually, checking their web site, I find a house-brand white steel model for $16.75 ... not so bad in the large scheme of woodworking:

http://www.japanwoodworker.com/dept.asp?dept_id=12769

EDIT: Oh, heck, I forgot ... I have an 1/8" Irwin/Marples chisel that matches the four-piece set I started with. Don't remember where I got it but the price was probably around half that of the Japanese model above.

[ironhat]

Yea, Jeff, that's the store. It's difficult for me to sit an hour at a time with my crapped out back so I do't do it too often. Twice was a little conc=servative - three, maybe four times is about it, though. It came to mind that there's an oddball, cheap-as-road apples chisel in the back of one of those drawers where things get tossed that you don't like and seldom use. It won't hold an edge for more than a couple of passes but maybe I can do a little grinding and heat treating on it with the MAPP torch. Heck, it's worth a try. Let's see, heat til red, quench, clean off metal, heat again till blue runs across the piece and quench - sound about right?
Later,
Chiz

PS The 'good' chisel set is marked 'DeWalt' which I got when I bought my 618-3BK. It's the first set of chisels I've had that weren't rough carpentry grade. I was so excited the first time I use them that I took the tissue thin shaving into the hose and showed them to LOML. She looked at me like I was having a mental breakdown. Again - LOL!!!

[Tom Miller]

... I have an 1/8" Irwin/Marples chisel that matches the four-piece set I started with. Don't remember where I got it ....

So they do exist! I have a (pre-Irwin) Marples set, so when I thought I saw an 1/8" I/M in a flyer, I figured I'd get it.

Don't remember where I saw it....

...She looked at me like I was having a mental breakdown.

Yeah, I get that a lot.

Regards,
Tom

[ironhat]

Well, I found the cheap, CHinese chisel and ground off 1/16" (shy) on each side to fit the groove. It held up for as long as I needed, after a brief honing. I took the groove back to but not into the mortise so that glue would not weep into the groove and lock up the panel. I didn't have a panel cutting set so I edged the panels with a 3/4" cove cutter. I found that that didn't leave enough reveal around the edges after the panel was set into the rails and stiles grooves. So, I reduced both dimensions by1/2" and then added a 1/4" x 1/4" piece on all sides. That way these pieces are hidden in the grooves and the small-ish 3/4" cove is entirely revealed giving me a raised panel effect. I guess I could shoot a pic of that without revealing the whole sad project (which isn't nearly done). I see if I can get that together some time.
Later,
Chiz

[cabinetman]

For those special tasks grinding a screwdriver will work, as you can make it any size you need. I also use hand carving tools that may be applicable. I also have crank neck paring chisels that I have posted before that come in many sizes and shapes, see below.



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