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  • Howard
    Established Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 176
    • Plano, Tx.
    • Laguna Platinum Series - sold my BT!

    #1

    Learning from your mistakes

    If one really does learn from their mistakes, I am on my way to becoming a genius. I started a project 2 weeks ago to build a rolling cart for my Big Green Egg smoker. Got a few ideas off their website and found another variation somewhere else. The mistakes started right away and kept on coming, to wit:

    1. Went to buy cypress from a local dealer. I made some calculations on what I thought I needed and then added a bit more for a fudge factor. To my surprise, the bill was $269! I thought it should be about half that but I already had it loaded so I figured I could always use what was left over for another project. Didn't realize I had bought enough for not only my cart but enough for one and probably two adirondack chairs!

    2. I also thought this would be a great opportunity to try mortise and tenon joints to connect the frame together. Mortises went fine for the most part. Not the most perfect in the world but who is going to see them, anyway? Tenons were a disaster. A couple of them fit pretty well from the git go but the rest had to be trimmed to the extent that there were huge gaps between the mortise and the tenon edge in order to get the edges of the boards to come close to matching up. Moral of the story...for me at least... get a Leigh FMT if I want to do M&T joints again.

    3. On a related issue, I needed to decide how best to glue all this mess up. Got a great deal on some of the new Jet clamps and a couple of the aluminum ones and found they were an inch too short! Ouch! Oh, well, have some great new clamps to use on another project. Then I had an epiphany. Why not get a Kreg pocket hole jig and just screw the legs together? Yep, another problem. Because I had already M & T'ed the joints, the screws weren't long enough to go all the way through the tenon that was where fresh wood should have been so I ended up glueing the crap out of it and running somemore screws from the underside where no one would see them anyway to hold the joints together until the glue dried. I briefly thought about just cutting the offending tenons off and filling the mortise with wood filler but decided to, as W would say, to "stay the course". Seems to have come out OK.

    4. The top, ah yes, the top. The top is roughly 26 x 46 so it's pretty good size. Ripped the 4/4 boards to about 5.2 or so to get the ultimate width I needed. I should have ripped them in half again because under the stress of the clamps, the boards bowed a bit. Ended up putting the bow side up and then used the pocket screw jig again and pulled it down tight to the frame. At least that worked out. Moral of that story, don't use boards wider than about 3 inches and then alternate grain direction. Didn't think of that either. Oh, BTW, good thing I bought all that extra material. I needed some of it for my SECOND top. First one was about 2 inches too short... grrrrr. Don't know how that happened. I think I decided to make the cart a bit longer than I originally planned so now I have another top I can use for something else. Hmmm....

    Believe it or not, even with all the mistakes, it's coming out looking pretty darn good! I am finishing sanding it now, bought some spar urethane and tested it on a small piece of cut off I sanded and it should look good. I'll post some pics when its finished. I suppose it's like a surgeon, it's not a mistake unless you close the patient before you catch it... NEXT time I'll know what to do!
    Howard, the Plano BT3'r.

    Confucious say, "Man who get too big for britches will be exposed in the end."

    I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it."
    - Mark Twain
  • Jeffrey Schronce
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3822
    • York, PA, USA.
    • 22124

    #2
    I must be on my way to being a genius as well, cause I think I have done all of those things!

    On the M&T, my first few projects were a bit loose. Some solutions include scraping the offending piece and starting over, glue some thin strips of wood to your tenons to create a tighter fit or as you suggest glue. I prefinished my first couple projects, taped around the mortises, then used Gorilla glue which expanded and filled the gap. I then took a sharp blade around the edge of the joint to score the glue and pulled the tape off. Those joints still seem to be rock solid and include a coffee table that has taken a lot of abuse.

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    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
      • 15216
      • So. Florida
      • Delta

      #3
      What about paperwork? Did you do all your planning and thinking on paper? Developing a methodical plan on paper is a good start and keep it current with any changes. Keeping details in your head along with thinking safety, is a tough way to work. Usually rushing helps generate error. I should know. I was born in a rush.

      As for the finish, maybe consider an oil finish. It's easier to maintain.



      "I'M NEVER WRONG - BUT I'M NOT ALWAYS RIGHT"

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      • Tom Hintz
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2004
        • 549
        • Concord, NC, USA.

        #4
        Howard,
        Don't be so hard on yourself. part of being a good woodworker is being critical of your own work. It's what makes you better the next time. You can't learn if you don't make a few mistakes along the way.
        I have the honor of having two highly skilled retired cabinetmakers who consult for my site. Both simply amaze me with what they can do with wood. However, I have seen both make mistakes and have to stop and figure out how to correct the problem. Granted their mistakes are on a whole different scale (smaller) than mine but I am heartened that they make them at all.
        I have a story about how I normally make mortise and tenon joints at the link below. Perhaps there is something in that piece that you can apply to how you do it. Like any joint, it gets easier with practice so relax and keep plugging away.

        http://www.newwoodworker.com/tipsmortenon.html
        Tom Hintz
        NewWoodworker.com LLC

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