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  • zootroy
    Established Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 321
    • Coeur D\'Alene, Idaho.

    #1

    What type of screws

    I am looking to buy some screws to attach a tabletop to a frame. I am using buttons to allow for movement. What is the best type of screw for this job. The top is hard maple. I am drilling pilot holes, but I still want something that can hold up to some torque.
    I bought a box of wood screws (zinc plated) from Lowes and they broke very easily.

    Also, If anyone has a good source?

    TIA
    Jason
  • Tom Slick
    Veteran Member
    • May 2005
    • 2913
    • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
    • sears BT3 clone

    #2
    www.mcfeelys.com sells high quality screws. I haven't had any issues using sheet metal screws in maple, but that is sacralige of course.
    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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    • drumpriest
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2004
      • 3338
      • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
      • Powermatic PM 2000

      #3
      Jason, I used figure 8 fasteners for my desk, and they just came with screws, but depending upon the length, you might wanna consider kreg screws. They've been great for me, in Oak and Rock Maple.
      Keith Z. Leonard
      Go Steelers!

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      • DonHo
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 1098
        • Shawnee, OK, USA.
        • Craftsman 21829

        #4
        I'm no expert but I'd use fine thread dry wall screws.

        DonHo
        Don

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        • wreckwriter
          Established Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 449
          • South Florida
          • BT3100-1

          #5
          The best quality screws, in my opinion, can be had at boat stores, West Marine, Boat US, etc. Top grade stainless, far better than big box stores carry.
          http://www.wreckwriter.com/

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          • Tom Miller
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2003
            • 2507
            • Twin Cities, MN
            • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

            #6
            I second the McFeely's recommendation (take it from two Tom's, they're great!) I get the #8 yellow zinc steel, but they have lots of other choices.

            I don't think I'll ever use a "wood" screw again. (Tapered drill bits? I don't think so!)

            I also keep a stock of Phillips head deck-style screws on hand in all sizes from 3/4" to 4" long. But the McFeely's are beefier, with a stronger head.

            Regards,
            Tom

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            • mschrank
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2004
              • 1130
              • Hood River, OR, USA.
              • BT3000

              #7
              Originally posted by DonHo
              I'm no expert but I'd use fine thread dry wall screws.

              DonHo
              Beware of using drywall screws for woodworking. They aren't a particularly strong screw. They're not designed for high torque, which makes sense (you don't want or need to torque a drywall screw...if you did, it would break through the paper).

              I figured this out when using drywall screws (all I had left) to finish up the last couple of boards on a deck. Figured they'd hold until I could replace them with something better. But half the heads popped off as I "drove them home," and several others popped off later.
              Mike

              Drywall screws are not wood screws

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              • jnesmith
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2003
                • 892
                • Tallahassee, FL, USA.

                #8
                Another vote for http://www.mcfeelys.com/subcat.asp?sid=235
                John

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                • zootroy
                  Established Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 321
                  • Coeur D\'Alene, Idaho.

                  #9
                  Thanks everyone,
                  Looks like i'll be shopping at McFeely's.
                  I appreciate the info.
                  Jason

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                  • Stick
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 872
                    • Grand Rapids, MB, Canada.
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tom Miller
                    I second the McFeely's recommendation (take it from two Tom's, they're great!) I get the #8 yellow zinc steel, but they have lots of other choices.

                    I don't think I'll ever use a "wood" screw again. (Tapered drill bits? I don't think so!)

                    I also keep a stock of Phillips head deck-style screws on hand in all sizes from 3/4" to 4" long. But the McFeely's are beefier, with a stronger head.

                    Regards,
                    Tom
                    Funny, isn't it? I've never even SEEN Phillips head deck screws, nor would I ever want to! All our screws up here are Robertson (square drive) except drywall screws.

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                    • WayneJ
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 785
                      • Elmwood Park, New Jersey, USA.

                      #11
                      I used sheet metal screws on the last one I did. Worked fine, 1/2 in screws and made my own figure 8s from 1/8 flat stock.
                      Wayne
                      Wayne J

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                      • zootroy
                        Established Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 321
                        • Coeur D\'Alene, Idaho.

                        #12
                        Got my order from McFeelys yesterday and I have to say that I may never use a non-square head screw again. Very slick. Thanks all for the advice.

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                        • kmk
                          Established Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 415
                          • .Portland, Oregon
                          • BT3100-1

                          #13
                          PM me and will mail you nice article on screw types and selection. square drive
                          screws are the best. They have stainless steel version if you need them for exterior project. I was about to order at McFeelys and found out that local Rockler also carries them. So, I got from there. I am using these on a big cabinet installation project and very happy. You can also buy caps for them.

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                          • AlanJ
                            Established Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 150
                            • Rochester, MN
                            • BT3100

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stick
                            Funny, isn't it? I've never even SEEN Phillips head deck screws, nor would I ever want to! All our screws up here are Robertson (square drive) except drywall screws.
                            Peter Robertson, who patented an efficient way to to make square head screws was a Canadian. He couldn't get penetratoin in the US market because he insisted on retaining control over the technology, and not licensing the manufacture (presumably to US industry). That's why Canadians have been lucky to not get stuck with philips drive screws like Americans have.
                            Alan

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                            • JeremyM
                              Established Member
                              • May 2004
                              • 116
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                              #15
                              I have to admit, I've never ordered from McFeeley's. However, I have spent my life using square-headed screws. I grew up using them in floor repairs. Why? 'Cause that's all we could get in 4" screws for a floor.

                              My opinion is that I don't see what all the fuss is about. Maybe it's because we don't predrill holes when doing floor repairs, but I have stripped out more than my fair share of square heads. I'm just not a raving fan of them.

                              Now, as far as strength, stay far, far away from drywall screws for your woodworking. I use them all the time when we are working on concrete forms. But that's because they are cheap and available, not due to an amazing strength.

                              Just a plugged nickel of opinion.

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