Splicing #2 Wire Underground

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  • crokett
    The Full Monte
    • Jan 2003
    • 10627
    • Mebane, NC, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Splicing #2 Wire Underground

    Is this acceptable? I don't think it is but even if it is it isn't desireable, at least by me. I have approx 40' of #2 - 2 hots, neutral and ground - that came with the shop. I need about 55, give or take. So should I sell what I have and buy long enough to get there or can I bury a splice? I don't really want to bury one, especially for wire this big. I'd keep it except I don't see me ever using it.
    David

    The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.
  • Daryl
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 831
    • .

    #2
    You can get water proof splices, I have used them in water wells to hook up a submersible pump. Alternative is to bring it up above ground, add an outlet there, with gfi of course, for whatever reason you may want one.
    Sometimes the old man passed out and left the am radio on so I got to hear the oldie songs and current event kind of things

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    • Tom Slick
      Veteran Member
      • May 2005
      • 2913
      • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
      • sears BT3 clone

      #3
      I'm not sure but I'll bet you would have to install a vault at the splice.
      Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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      • Mr__Bill
        Veteran Member
        • May 2007
        • 2096
        • Tacoma, WA
        • BT3000

        #4
        They make a direct burial splice kit.
        But
        For me, where ever their is potential for trouble at some point it's going to happen, I would sell what you have and buy new.

        Bill,

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        • woodturner
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2049
          • Western Pennsylvania
          • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr__Bill
          They make a direct burial splice kit.
          They sell lots of things that are not "legal" to use.

          NEC requires all splices to be made in a box - it's not legal, per NEC, to bury a splice.
          --------------------------------------------------
          Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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          • gjat
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 685
            • Valrico (Tampa), Florida.
            • BT3100

            #6
            Splicing is allowed by NEC, and you're right, it must be in a pull box (vault). My company does street lighting and we make splices all the time. However, I don't think it's cost effective for the little bit of wire you're talking about. Splices are inerently problematic, especially for power feeds. We work mostly with higher voltages then 120/240v, but I personally would NEVER splice in a residential situation. Splices often fail over time and you're risking an uneccessary hazard to save a few bucks.

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            • pelligrini
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 4217
              • Fort Worth, TX
              • Craftsman 21829

              #7
              Probably ought to go with your gut and not do a splice.

              Is this the run going out to your shop? What sort of load & voltage drop are you designing for?

              If you buy new, I don't think you need anything near as large as a #2. I figured you were using #2 because you already had it.
              Erik

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              • crokett
                The Full Monte
                • Jan 2003
                • 10627
                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                I won't do a splice. The panel in the shop is rated for 100A. You are right I was using #2 because that was what he had. I need a circuit for lights, 2 -3 20A 110V circuts for tools and then a 220V circuit or two. I have a planer that runs at 220 and may or may not have a window A/C unit there in the summer. My current basement shop has 1 light circuit 2 20A circuits and I do just fine. My planer is at my dad';s but will get moved back when the new shop is up.
                David

                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                • L. D. Jeffries
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 747
                  • Russell, NY, USA.
                  • Ryobi BT3000

                  #9
                  For what its worth! My shop is about 30 ft from the main breaker box in the house. About 10 yrs ago some stupid (on my part) digging I managed to cut one leg of the buried cable. Put in a "vault" box splice. Never have had a problem since!
                  RuffSawn
                  Nothin' smells better than fresh sawdust!

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