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  • Wood_workur
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 1914
    • Ohio
    • Ryobi bt3100-1

    is it even possible?

    to lower a basement? We have a 6'6" basement now (I know because I clear 70% of it by 4" and have to duck through the rest) and My room, and "music studio" is located there. I COULD relocate my room, but there is really no way I could move my drums and guitar anywhere else.

    So is it possible to have the basement dug down another 18" We have brick walls and a poured concrete floor. (I do know there is plumbing for the main drain, a sink and a toilet running through it)

    Or would I be best wearing a helmet every time I walk to/from my room/studio?
    Alex
  • Mr__Bill
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    • May 2007
    • 2096
    • Tacoma, WA
    • BT3000

    #2
    It might be easier and less expensive to raise the house.

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    • Wood_workur
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 1914
      • Ohio
      • Ryobi bt3100-1

      #3
      From the top or the bottom?
      Alex

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      • Hellrazor
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 2091
        • Abyss, PA
        • Ridgid R4512

        #4
        That really isn't possible since it would disturb the footer for the walls. Short of paying a company some mega-$$$$.

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        • Daryl
          Senior Member
          • May 2004
          • 831
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          #5
          He means from the bottom. Jack the house up and add three more courses of block on top of the basement wall. In order to dig down you would have to install a new foundation and extend the basement walls down.
          Sometimes the old man passed out and left the am radio on so I got to hear the oldie songs and current event kind of things

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          • pelligrini
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 4217
            • Fort Worth, TX
            • Craftsman 21829

            #6
            Most anything is possible (for a price). Practical? That's a different question. It would probably be less painful if you just had your legs shortened.

            A possibility of lowering the floor without disturbing the footing for the exterior block walls is to lower the floor slab beyond that footing and tying in a stemwall and new slab to it. A structural engineer would really need to be consulted. The sewer lines might be a problem too.

            It is possible to lift it. Houses around here get moved like that. Jack 'em up & roll them off. Easy, probably not. Expensive, youbetchya.
            Erik

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            • Ed62
              The Full Monte
              • Oct 2006
              • 6022
              • NW Indiana
              • BT3K

              #7
              Is there a reason you wouldn't want to raise the house? That seems to be much more doable than lowering the basement.

              Ed
              Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

              For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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              • Richard in Smithville
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                • Oct 2006
                • 3014
                • On the TARDIS
                • BT 3100

                #8
                There is always underpinning( I think I have the correct term) but that can run into a lot of cash too.

                You might be better learning where to duck.

                Edit: Basically what Pelligrini already said.
                From the "deep south" part of Canada

                Richard in Smithville

                http://richardspensandthings.blogspot.com/

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                • woodturner
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2047
                  • Western Pennsylvania
                  • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

                  #9
                  possible, but...

                  As someone else said, underpinning is the way to lower the basement floor.

                  The process is that a 3' section of the foundation is dug up, deepened to the required level, and a new footer and foundation wall is poured. When that cures, another section is dug up and poured. This process is repeated until the entire foundation is underpinned.

                  If you can dig a hole and fill it with concrete, you have the technical skills to do it. However, I don't recommend that you do it yourself, in most cases. It's not difficult, but if done wrong can destroy the house.

                  If you can find a contractor that does traditional underpinning, cost should not be too high - maybe $5K to $10K for a typical 20' x 30' basement. If you go this route, check references and insurance for the contractor.
                  --------------------------------------------------
                  Electrical Engineer by day, Woodworker by night

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                  • Uncle Cracker
                    The Full Monte
                    • May 2007
                    • 7091
                    • Sunshine State
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    Originally posted by woodturner
                    It's not difficult, but if done wrong can destroy the house.
                    Just a minor consideration...

                    In Japanese martial arts, there is a thing called "shikko" roughly meaning "knee-walking". Get into a dojo near you, and learn how to do it...

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                    • JeffG78
                      Established Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 385
                      • Northville, Michigan - a Detroit suburb
                      • BT3100

                      #11
                      About 20 years ago, my dad had his house blocked up so that they could replace the basement walls and footers due to a buckling wall. At the same time, they went from 8" block to 12" block so he could use brick for the exterior walls. He didn't, however, go deeper since he didn't need to. I see no reason why they couldn't have done it though.

                      Like others have said, it would be easier to add a few courses and raise the house. Either way, there will be damage to drywall, bathroom tile, etc. from jacking the house up.

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                      • vaking
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1428
                        • Montclair, NJ, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3100-1

                        #12
                        Putting it simply - time to move. You will be better off if you:
                        1). Build yourself an external structure for your drums.
                        2). Sell your house and buy another one that suits your needs better.
                        I think that either of these options is better than digging down the foundation and the basement.
                        Just my 2 cents.
                        Alex V

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                        • chopnhack
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3779
                          • Florida
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          I have to agree with vaking...think about all the little things that will need to be done to jack the house up. A lot of wiring will need to be replaced, plumbing will need to be added to, damage to floors, ceilings and tile as some one else mentioned. The list goes on and on....
                          I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                          • FL Buckeye
                            Established Member
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 187
                            • WC Florida and Crossville, TN
                            • BT3100, Grizzly 1023SL

                            #14
                            As a youth (in Ohio) I remember visiting in more than one home that had a basement added sometime after the house was built. I always thought it was unusual that the basement walls sat in from the outside of the house. I remember there was a ledge about 30" deep around the perimeter of the basement walls at a level where the old crawl space had been, and the owners stored items on the shelf the ledge made. I was too young to really pay much attention to the construction but I guess the basement walls were dug out inside the the original perimeter so as to not disturb whatever footers there were. And the new basement walls came up to meet and form the ledge. So I guess it could be done, but other options mentioned here sound much better.
                            Lanny

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                            • shoottx
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1240
                              • Plano, Texas
                              • BT3000

                              #15
                              What is a Basement?

                              Often in error - Never in doubt

                              Mike

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