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  • atgcpaul
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 4055
    • Maryland
    • Grizzly 1023SLX

    #1

    Finished rain barrel pics

    There was some recent discussion about rain barrels so I thought I'd post the
    barrels I just finished off. Biggest question for me was how do I attach the
    spigot? Bulkhead fittings were suggested but my barrels have a screw-in
    bung that have a 3/4" garden hose thread. I drilled through the bung making
    sure I preserved the threads. I took the bung to Lowes and bought some
    CPVC fittings. I would have used PVC but for some reason the 3/4" PVC pipe
    would not fit into the PVC fittings.




    The bung was screwed back in, the barrel flipped over and set on a stack of
    cinder blocks. To prevent mosqitoes from laying eggs in the barrel and to
    keep the barrel debris free from the downspout, I took two leftover, plastic
    flower pots that nested together. While nested, I drilled 3/4" holes in the
    sides of the pot. I then separated the pots, laid some window screen
    between the pots and then pressed the pots together. Hopefully water
    drains through but mosquitoes, twigs, and leaves do not.

    I traced the outline of the pot onto the top of the barrel and cut inside the
    line with a jigsaw. Finally, I shortened my downspout, attached a flexible
    diverter, and done! I do still need to come up with an overflow plan but
    the rain used to drain where those barrels are now so maybe I won't bother.



    We had some pretty decent rain last night and my first barrel is already full.

    We're supposed to get more rain tonight so I'm expecting this new barrel to
    also be full by morning. 110 gallons of water saved.

    I suppose you could argue that the cost of construction, etc, doesn't
    really justify the savings you'd have if you just used the city water but I do
    feel better about not wasting this free resource and I had fun doing it.

    I bought the barrels on Craigslist for $40 each. They used to hold Mountain
    Dew and there was still about a cup of syrup in each of them. I didn't drink
    it. The spigot parts were less than $10 total. The diverter was $2 and the
    blocks were about $5.50 for 4.




    Paul
  • siliconbauhaus
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 925
    • hagerstown, md

    #2
    Nice one mate.

    It's appalling then amount of grey water that could be used in the US that goes to waste. Back in Britain, all the down pipes from gutters went into the water system and was treated once it got to the water plant.
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    • crokett
      The Full Monte
      • Jan 2003
      • 10627
      • Mebane, NC, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000

      #3
      Thanks for the tip. It gives me some good ideas.

      I am thinking about rain barrels myself. A 100 gal barrel will water the plants I have to water several times over.
      David

      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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      • iceman61
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 699
        • West TN
        • Bosch 4100-09

        #4
        Nice project. Your plants will definately like the rain water more than tap water.
        Last edited by iceman61; 05-09-2008, 06:44 PM.

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        • Kristofor
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2004
          • 1331
          • Twin Cities, MN
          • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

          #5
          Looking good. The plants seem to like the non-chlorinated/ non-fluoridated/ non-softened water much better.

          Originally posted by siliconbauhaus
          Nice one mate.

          It's appalling then amount of grey water that could be used in the US that goes to waste. Back in Britain, all the down pipes from gutters went into the water system and was treated once it got to the water plant.
          Usually the opposite concern around here. They absolutely want to avoid putting that water into the sanitary sewer as the peak level for volume to be treated (during a rain storm) is many times the average load. I know a number of people who have had to have their sump-pumps inspected every once in a while (5 years?) to ensure they are going outside and not into the sewer.

          However, plenty of cities pull their water from surface sources (where the run-off, and outputs from waste treatment plants from upstream ends up). In general I'd think the pollution from urban surface run-off would be worse than from the general environment, but I suppose agricultural may be worse?

          Of course the other thing to remember is that despite all the worry there's really no shortage of water on Earth, but rather a shortage of energy to clean it and/or transport it. If we lick the energy problem the water concern takes care of itself (at least in countries with the cash to address the issue).

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          • Alex Franke
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 2641
            • Chapel Hill, NC
            • Ryobi BT3100

            #6
            Looks great. We have ~65 gal barrels on all of our downspouts and it really is alarming how quickly they can fill up.

            The window screen between the pots is a really clever solution!

            I use the flexible connectors, too, and when the barrels fill up, I just plug it back in to the rest of the downspout. (I cut out about a 1-ft section out of each so it's easy to reconnect if necessary.) The barrels I use have a place to attach a hose for overflow, but the problem is that the water will often to into the barrel a lot faster than it can come out through that little overflow valve. In any case, I have a hose attached that just leads back into the bottom portion of the downspout -- just in case I forget to reconnect the downspouts.

            Crokett -- keep an eye out for county sales -- we just picked up a couple more a month or so ago for I think $60 each (normally around $90-100) when Orange county sponsored a sale. They do this with compost bins, too.
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            • cwithboat
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 614
              • 47deg54.3'N 122deg34.7'W
              • Craftsman Pro 21829

              #7
              rain barrel + drip irrigation

              I just installed a 55 gal drum (Kikkoman Soy Sauce) that I bought for $17. These things must approach being free for the supplier. There is a PUD south of here that sells them for $5, Seattle sells the whole kit for $55.
              Our PUD gives away a device that turns off automatic sprinkler systems when it rains, it goes in next. I intend to install drip irrigation so that while we are our cruising in our boat during the dry season (yes, there is one in Seattle) our plants won't die.
              Does anyone know how to regulate the outflow from a drip system so that water distribution is even over a length of hose or pipe? Do I drill smaller holes at the beginning and gradually increase the size of the holes down the line? If so, is there an algorithm which will tell me how to size the holes?
              I realize that, (using an electrical analogy) if the water is delivered in parallel rather than serially I would get equal amounts of water at each outlet, but thats a heck of a lot of hose.
              regards,
              Charlie
              A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
              Rudyard Kipling

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              • LinuxRandal
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 4890
                • Independence, MO, USA.
                • bt3100

                #8
                Originally posted by cwithboat
                I just installed a 55 gal drum (Kikkoman Soy Sauce) that I bought for $17. These things must approach being free for the supplier. There is a PUD south of here that sells them for $5, Seattle sells the whole kit for $55.
                Our PUD gives away a device that turns off automatic sprinkler systems when it rains, it goes in next. I intend to install drip irrigation so that while we are our cruising in our boat during the dry season (yes, there is one in Seattle) our plants won't die.
                Does anyone know how to regulate the outflow from a drip system so that water distribution is even over a length of hose or pipe? Do I drill smaller holes at the beginning and gradually increase the size of the holes down the line? If so, is there an algorithm which will tell me how to size the holes?
                I realize that, (using an electrical analogy) if the water is delivered in parallel rather than serially I would get equal amounts of water at each outlet, but thats a heck of a lot of hose.
                Neighbor years ago, had a sprinkler system in his basement. All CPVC pipe, with brass fittings that misted the water, and hooked to a timer. It was over his Fiscus (spelling?) tree's with Gecko's in them. (More then a few druggy's asked how to). If your holes are small enough, as long as you have volume, in and supplying the pipe, you won't have to worry about it.
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                • cwithboat
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 614
                  • 47deg54.3'N 122deg34.7'W
                  • Craftsman Pro 21829

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LinuxRandal
                  Neighbor years ago, had a sprinkler system in his basement. All CPVC pipe, with brass fittings that misted the water, and hooked to a timer. It was over his Fiscus (spelling?) tree's with Gecko's in them. (More then a few druggy's asked how to). If your holes are small enough, as long as you have volume, in and supplying the pipe, you won't have to worry about it.
                  Well thats a good way to start, but with the rain barrel as supply and small holes I had better plan on installing a filter in line.
                  BTW here is a present for you (avatar?)
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                  regards,
                  Charlie
                  A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.
                  Rudyard Kipling

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                  • chopnhack
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3779
                    • Florida
                    • Ryobi BT3100

                    #10
                    Very cool - there is one municipality that I read about recently that requires any roads that are being paved to use "permeable" concrete. Apparently the pores of the cement and aggregate are large enough to allow water to filter through and replenish the ground water. I forget whereabouts that was, but I am sure that it can't be up north, because the freeze cycle would spall up the roadway! Great idea though for any state with moderate temps. A lot of water would get cleaned naturally and replenish rivers, streams and our ground water instead of just running off.
                    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                    • ssmith1627
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 704
                      • Corryton, TN, USA.
                      • Ryobi BT3100

                      #11
                      Sounds like a really good idea.

                      Do you have any issue with the water turning green over time ? Algae and the like taking over ?

                      Steve

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                      • atgcpaul
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 4055
                        • Maryland
                        • Grizzly 1023SLX

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ssmith1627
                        Sounds like a really good idea.

                        Do you have any issue with the water turning green over time ? Algae and the like taking over ?

                        Steve
                        That is definitely a consideration, and I fully expect it to happen because the
                        barrel is not light tight. I didn't have access to black or blue barrels. The
                        barrels have been up for less than a month and they are both full. I don't
                        see algae yet but I'm sure it will happen. I figure it'll be extra nutrients for
                        the plants.

                        Paul

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                        • ssmith1627
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 704
                          • Corryton, TN, USA.
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          I know very little. Just some reading from trying to get a POOL to turn from something green into something you'd want to swim in. Just bought a new house and I inherited a swamp of an above-ground pool.

                          But something I remember said the algae itself wasn't the concern, it was bacteria that could live in the algae.

                          I do like the idea though. I may find a way to do something similar but for smaller qty's that I'd use up quickly. Hopefully with regular turnover you could avoid that problem.

                          What about water from a stream ? I have a stream/creek that's 10-14 feet wide running along the back edge of my property. I guess the concern is what is upstream from me that could be polluting that water.

                          Just thinking out loud -- wasn't trying to hijack the thread !

                          Steve

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                          • JoeyGee
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1509
                            • Sylvania, OH, USA.
                            • BT3100-1

                            #14
                            Maybe I missed it, but what all do you water with the barrel? Do you use only drip irrigation for plants, or do you water the grass? I assume there is not enough water and/or pressure to use it for a sprinkler system?
                            Joe

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                            • atgcpaul
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 4055
                              • Maryland
                              • Grizzly 1023SLX

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JoeyGee
                              Maybe I missed it, but what all do you water with the barrel? Do you use only drip irrigation for plants, or do you water the grass? I assume there is not enough water and/or pressure to use it for a sprinkler system?
                              Right now the plan is to use it to water the plants. Last year we had a long
                              drought so who knows what this year will bring and if I can keep it filled.

                              About the algae and bacteria. I don't plan on drinking the water and I don't
                              think either organism would affect plants. I suppose I could spike it with
                              bleach if it gets really bad. Bleach will naturally become neutralized over time
                              especially if I make it to the suggested 10% strength. I'll test it on the
                              patches of my lawn infested with weeds.

                              http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/...13/bleach.html

                              Paul

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