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  • Somewhere in my Garage

    #1

    Header Size

    Yup, I'm a newbie. Enough said.

    I'm doing a 1940s remodel, adding an ell shape onto an existing rectangular design. Roof joists and floor joists run east/west, short distance of rectangular shape runs east/west.

    I want to know where to go to find a chart, table, or other reference that gives header sizes for various lengths, plugging in the total of dead weight, live weight, and snow weight as a total weight to be supported figure.

    Basically I need two headers, one for a basement load bearing wall and one for a main floor kitchen load bearing wall.

    The basement header will be covered; I don't care what it looks like, steel, manufactured, whatever. I need it to be no more than 5 1/2" tall, 12 feet long. Live weight is 1200 lb, dead weight is 4000 lb, snow weight is 3000lb for a total of 8200 lb spread over twelve square feet.

    The upstairs kitchen header will be exposed. The look of the place is 1940s ranch. I'd really like to put a solid beam in there, roughly 17 feet long. On that one, live weight is 1000lb, dead weight is 2000lb, snow weight is 3000lb, for a total of 6000lb spread over 17 square feet. I want the header to be 17 feet in length, any width, but heighth is a factor. I'd like to keep the height under 10" if possible.

    Am I in the ball park, or do I need to refigure with some other material? And where do I go to find figures to tell me what shape, material, and dimensions I require?

    Glenn
  • iceman61
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 699
    • West TN
    • Bosch 4100-09

    #2
    Glenn,

    I have a very important suggestion for you about this. If you call some of your local lumber yards/material suppliers, I'm sure one of them will have an engineer on duty that will run the loads for you & give you several options for your applications for free. I come from a strong industrial engineering field & now have my own residentual construction company but I will not even attemp to spec out headers in my projects without running them by an engineer. They will also give you a heads up on correct size & number of fasteners & the correct method of anchoring as well as correct sizing of columns under each end. After all it's a free service alot of lumber yard/material suppliers do.

    If you miss one small thing you could have your valuable investment (your home) come crashing down not to mention the chances of yourself or a loved one being there when it might happen.

    Just trying to point you in the right direction. Good luck.
    Last edited by iceman61; 02-06-2008, 04:20 PM.

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    • bigstick509
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 1227
      • Macomb, MI, USA.
      • BT3100

      #3
      I agree with iceman61, back when I worked for the large orange box store we had a couple of qualified sources we would refer to.
      And by the way,


      Mike

      "It's not the things you don't know that will hurt you, it's the things you think you know that ain't so." - Mark Twain

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      • Somewhere in my Garage

        #4
        Muchos Gracias Iceman and Bigstick

        In answer to youse guys' posts, 'Okay, I'll pick the qualified engineer guy's brain.'

        He'll be the one dressed in an orange shirt...
        Last edited by Guest; 02-24-2008, 02:48 PM. Reason: etiquette

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