plumbing question

[Cheeky]

if you can tell by the pic, the trap is off-center (closer to the hot water line). so when the house was built, the builder just turned the trap to compensate for this. they also had the hot and cold lines coming up through the floor, i suppose because of the drain pipe that runs across the wall.

i always hated it, so when I decided to take wallpaper off the walls, then that translated into taking the floor up, now I pretty much have the room gutted .

I got a pretty cool wall hung sink, and a fancy trap, so I would like to conceal the valves behind the sink. that entails raising the hot and cold. the only problem i have is the drain pipe on the cold side. any ideas to accomplish this without moving the drain pipe? would pex be an idea?

thanks,
pete

[Hellrazor]

They bring the pipe through the floor in some climates to help eliminate problems with pipes freezing in outside walls. That looks like an interior wall, but I am not 100% sure...

[Cheeky]

They bring the pipe through the floor in some climates to help eliminate problems with pipes freezing in outside walls. That looks like an interior wall, but I am not 100% sure...

correct, it's an interior wall. the dining room is on the other side.

[TheRic]

During normal construction the framers will come in and put up ways, making the studs at 16" OC (or other predetermined distances). Then the plumbers, electricians, etc come in. They need to work around / within the walls. The sink was planned to be at that spot because of a window / cabinets / etc. The plumber had a choice to put the drain pipe short of the stud, or just past it. He can't / does not want to remove / move the stud. Many drain pipes are offset for one reason or another.

Not knowing what is run below, and since you want the pipes coming out the wall. Then the only thing I can suggest is to run both pipes up thru the wall on the left. Then run the cold water thru the stud, above the drain pipe. So you will have hot water on one side of the stud, and cold on the other.

[Salty]

Seems to me that you could run both pipes through the wall to a point just below the drain line. That may be far enough off the floor to be hidden unless you are sitting on the floor. You wouldn't want them to be too high or getting the flex lines on would be difficult.

[Cheeky]

During normal construction the framers will come in and put up ways, making the studs at 16" OC (or other predetermined distances). Then the plumbers, electricians, etc come in. They need to work around / within the walls. The sink was planned to be at that spot because of a window / cabinets / etc. The plumber had a choice to put the drain pipe short of the stud, or just past it. He can't / does not want to remove / move the stud. Many drain pipes are offset for one reason or another.

Not knowing what is run below, and since you want the pipes coming out the wall. Then the only thing I can suggest is to run both pipes up thru the wall on the left. Then run the cold water thru the stud, above the drain pipe. So you will have hot water on one side of the stud, and cold on the other.

that's an idea.

i'm toying with the idea of changing the faucet to a wall mount faucet.

[Hellrazor]

He has the easiest idea, go with it.

[Stormbringer]

Cheek,

I don't know how wide that particular wall is and how many studs make it up but, if it's not too long and you want to avoid the up and over run of the cold water line, just put some 1/2" or 3/4" nailers on the front edes of the 2X4's. This will "shim" your rock away from the waste pipe that much more allowing you to sneak the cold water run up in front of the waste pipe. Then they could come up at their current locations, just behind the wall (I'm assuming current clearence, based on the picture, to be about 3/4"?)

Good Luck,
Greg

[Cheeky]

Cheek,

I don't know how wide that particular wall is and how many studs make it up but, if it's not too long and you want to avoid the up and over run of the cold water line, just put some 1/2" or 3/4" nailers on the front edes of the 2X4's. This will "shim" your rock away from the waste pipe that much more allowing you to sneak the cold water run up in front of the waste pipe. Then they could come up at their current locations, just behind the wall (I'm assuming current clearence, based on the picture, to be about 3/4"?)

Good Luck,
Greg

Greg,

That's a brilliant idea! Actually, I'd like to step-out the section where the sink is going to be (floor to ceiling, about a foot and a half wide or so). Tile that part, and go with a wall-mount sink and wall mount faucet.

I swear my intellect is worn; I thought taking up the sub-floor would be a couple hour job, instead it ended up taking a whole day......dang 1 3/4 staples. At the end of the day, I just can't come up with ideas.

ok, now i have a plan....can't thank you enough!!!

Best,
Pete