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  • Erik Eitel
    Forum Newbie
    • Dec 2004
    • 80
    • Jackson, NJ, USA.

    #1

    Garage Heater

    My neighbor gave me an electric heater that he was using as an auxiliary heater in his basement. He also has one in his garage.

    My plan is to install it in the garage and use it when I do vehicle maintenance or other projects when it's cold. I do not want it to run all the time.

    The heater is 220 VAC and has a maximum draw of 21 amps.

    My initial thought was to use a bathroom vent fan timer switch (60 minute) but at 220 VAC they are only rated at 10 amps.

    I would like to use a 60 minute timer so that I don't have to worry about forgetting to turn it off. I can't seem to find anything suitable though.

    Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

    Thanks!
    Erik
  • sacherjj
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 813
    • Indianapolis, IN, USA.
    • BT3100-1

    #2
    Perhaps finding a constant duty relay that can handle the 220V load, but is driven with a 120V circuit. Then use the timer to drive the relay to power the heater. Not sure of the costs involved, but you just need to increase the switching capability. A constant duty DPST relay that can handle the voltage and amperage should work fine. If it is powered by 12V or 24V DC, then you can just use a power brick into the switched 120V to power the relay.
    Joe Sacher

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    • Erik Eitel
      Forum Newbie
      • Dec 2004
      • 80
      • Jackson, NJ, USA.

      #3
      Originally posted by sacherjj
      Perhaps finding a constant duty relay that can handle the 220V load, but is driven with a 120V circuit. Then use the timer to drive the relay to power the heater. Not sure of the costs involved, but you just need to increase the switching capability. A constant duty DPST relay that can handle the voltage and amperage should work fine. If it is powered by 12V or 24V DC, then you can just use a power brick into the switched 120V to power the relay.
      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!!! Not really.

      Actually someone I work with suggested something similar.

      I'm looking for something simple and INEXPENSIVE.

      Thank you for the suggestion though!
      Erik

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      • big tim
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 546
        • Scarborough, Toronto,Canada
        • SawStop PCS

        #4
        You want something simple, non electric? Hang a windup kitchen timer around your neck, set it and when it goes off, it will remind you to turn off the heater. Be careful bending over the tablesaw though!

        Tim
        Sometimes my mind wanders. It's always come back though......sofar!

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        • bigangelman
          Forum Newbie
          • Nov 2006
          • 32
          • Northern Wisconsin
          • BT3000

          #5
          Something simple and inexpensive would be to donate this heater and write off the value. This thing will cost A LOT to feed.

          Tom

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          • Erik Eitel
            Forum Newbie
            • Dec 2004
            • 80
            • Jackson, NJ, USA.

            #6
            Originally posted by bigangelman
            Something simple and inexpensive would be to donate this heater and write off the value. This thing will cost A LOT to feed.

            Tom
            I only intend to use on the really cold days when I have to work out in the garage.
            Erik

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            • Tom Slick
              Veteran Member
              • May 2005
              • 2913
              • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
              • sears BT3 clone

              #7
              you could use a contactor like a p/n 5B126 from grainger. it's rated for 30 amps @ 230v with a 120V coil.
              Then attach a mechanical timer like p/n 4A218 which is a 6hr 120v timer
              put it all in an enclosure like p/n 4KP28
              you are still less then $75 not including wire, circuit breaker, and electrician fees.
              how cheap did you want to go?
              Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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              • onedash
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 1013
                • Maryland
                • Craftsman 22124

                #8
                Get one for a sauna....
                YOU DONT HAVE TO TRAIN TO BE MISERABLE. YOU HAVE TO TRAIN TO ENDURE MISERY.

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                • Erik Eitel
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 80
                  • Jackson, NJ, USA.

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom Slick
                  you could use a contactor like a p/n 5B126 from grainger. it's rated for 30 amps @ 230v with a 120V coil.
                  Then attach a mechanical timer like p/n 4A218 which is a 6hr 120v timer
                  put it all in an enclosure like p/n 4KP28
                  you are still less then $75 not including wire, circuit breaker, and electrician fees.
                  how cheap did you want to go?
                  Ok, now we're on to something!

                  I'm looking at the Grainger catalog and how do I know what I want?
                  Am I looking for the coil volts to be 110-120? And how do I wire it, specifically?
                  I understand it's 220 in one side and 110 in the other the timer, but can you get a bit more specific?

                  I can do all the wiring myself...

                  Thanks!
                  Erik

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                  • JR
                    The Full Monte
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 5636
                    • Eugene, OR
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    Loring (lchien) published a remote control mehcanism that could help you, although his links are broken!

                    Here's the thread http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=19603

                    You might PM him to see if he can round up the drawings and pics. The nice thing about his design is that it used simple low-amperage devices to enable high-current ones. Very clever and and a modest cost.

                    JR
                    JR

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                    • Tom Slick
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 2913
                      • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                      • sears BT3 clone

                      #11
                      without haveing the parts I can't say for sure but if you used the part numbers I posted you would have the 2 hot legs into the contactor. you'd tie into one leg and go out to the timer then from the timer to the coil. the other side of the coil would be a seperate neutral back to the panel.
                      then you would have the switched 2 hot legs out to the heater.
                      Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                      • Erik Eitel
                        Forum Newbie
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 80
                        • Jackson, NJ, USA.

                        #12
                        I ordered the contactor from eBay, it is about $4.

                        Found the info in Loring's instructions.

                        Thanks for all the input!
                        Erik

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