What's the difference with castors?

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  • BigguyZ
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 1818
    • Minneapolis, MN
    • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

    What's the difference with castors?

    I was at HF last night and they had 4" and 3" castors on sale. They looked and felt sturdy enough, but I know a lot of people are picky about castors. What's the difference? Please educate and ignorant newbie.
  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #2
    The difference between the two is 1". No really, The differences could be of a variety. The type of axel used and it's diameter should be larger on a larger caster. Whether or not there are bearings, and how the axel is mounted in the wheel. The type of material used for the hub and tire will vary. There is soft and hard rubber casters. The quality of the swivel mechanism if it's a swivel. These are some of the differences in casters in general. For the same brand of production caster for general use, usually the difference is the size of the wheel and the size of the axel. In selecting a caster size, the larger wheel will usually have a greater capacity, taller clearance, and roll over bumpy surfaces better than a smaller one.



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    • Tom Miller
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2003
      • 2507
      • Twin Cities, MN
      • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

      #3
      This may be one of those areas where you have to buy some cheap ones to really learn all the ways that casters can "under perform". You'll be surprised and amazed.

      The bottom line is that casters can be (and usually are) an appreciable fraction of the cost of a piece of shop equipment. But, they also can make or break your appreciation for that piece of shop equipment.

      One way that I've found to save a little money, though, is not to buy double locking swivel casters. I haven't found any yet that will lock rock solid with no (i.e. "not a hint of", aka zero) wiggle, which is a requirement of mine. Instead, I use standard swivel casters, and make my own leveler feet. Those meet my requirements exactly.

      Regards,
      Tom

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      • LinuxRandal
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 4889
        • Independence, MO, USA.
        • bt3100

        #4
        I am going to be needing some for a project or two soon, could you all throw out some recommendations as to who you buy from?

        Waiting on the go for the second project, if so I will be looking for greasable casters for it.
        She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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        • Tom Miller
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 2507
          • Twin Cities, MN
          • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

          #5
          I've been getting mine from Grizzly; the red poly ones, at the bottom of the page.

          Regards,
          Tom

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          • cobob
            Established Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 252
            • Rolla, MO, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            "make my own leveler feet" ?? That is a provocative statement. I have been pondering this one myself. how do you do it?

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            • cobob
              Established Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 252
              • Rolla, MO, USA.
              • BT3100

              #7
              ebay frequently has some GREAT deals on GREAT casters. The shipping cost is huge but phenolic 400 lb/ caster rated zerk fitted casters for ~$20 per wheel show up regularly

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              • BigguyZ
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 1818
                • Minneapolis, MN
                • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

                #8
                The Castors I bought from HF were 4" with a black rubber tire and what looked like a cast metal frame. Bearings for the swivel part, and cost $3 or somewhere abouts.... They seemed pretty sturdy to me. They had fixed castors and swivel in 3" as well for about $2-$3.

                I'm not worried about the locking mechanism, since I'll be making my own leveler feet as well...

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                • bigsteel15
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1079
                  • Edmonton, AB
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #9
                  I like these that a local distributor carries a full inventory of.
                  http://www.fallshaw.com/
                  They are not cheap but very well made.
                  I have also bought the "cheap" ones at the local tools store but their inventory is never consistent so rarely can I get the same thing twice.
                  Brian

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                  • Tom Miller
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 2507
                    • Twin Cities, MN
                    • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cobob
                    "make my own leveler feet" ?? That is a provocative statement. I have been pondering this one myself. how do you do it?
                    Check out this thread.

                    I've since incorporated the "eye bolt" suggestion posted in that thread, and now I can fully operate these by hand (i.e. I can lift my BT3 mobile base off the ground by hand-turning the eye bolt).

                    Regards,
                    Tom

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                    • BobSch
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 4385
                      • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                      • BT3100

                      #11
                      I've been happy with the Grizz casters here http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2006/Main/264
                      Specifically the HO684 with double locks. Haven't seen any noticible movement when locked and they move easily when unlocked.
                      Bob

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                      • Pappy
                        The Full Monte
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 10453
                        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 (x2)

                        #12
                        Depends on what you are using them on. Mobile cabinets with medium weight factor, the Grizzly casters are good. Like Tom, I prefer the red poly wheels from them.

                        For heavier loads and mobile tool bases, I get mine from Darnell-Rose. http://www.casters.com/ US company that makes their own products at prices that are in line with the better import models. Best part is that if you order 4 casters or 4,000 you are treated like the most important customer they have!

                        The swivel bearings are double row, so steering/turning is easier. My tool cart weighs in at amost 400#'s and I can steer it from either end.

                        For mobile tool bases I use 2" hard rubber wheels on swivels in a modified Wood magazine designed base. I have the Grizzly G0555 on these and did have a 6" jointer on them. Working now on a base for an 8" jointer and lifts for my BT3.

                        If anyone is interested I can give specific part numbers and a point of contact.
                        Don, aka Pappy,

                        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                        Fools because they have to say something.
                        Plato

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                        • gmack5
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 1973
                          • Quapaw, Oklahoma, USA.
                          • Ryobi BT3000SX & BT3100

                          #13
                          Here's another alternative for the eye-bolt lift/leverler

                          Here's an alternative to the Eyebolt type lift.
                          It's relatively easy to construct, I've used them several times as levelers, but they could just as well be used as lifts.

                          http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.html
                          Stop thinking why you can't and Start thinking how you CAN!
                          Remember, SUCCESS comes in CANS!
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