Poll: How good are you?

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  • Copper
    Established Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 343
    • Madison, WI.
    • BT3100

    #1

    Poll: How good are you?

    Here's a chance to gloat about your work. I'm wondering how people rate their own wood-competency. I'm to the point now where I can correct most mistakes (i.e. cutting a piece 1/8 too short) and ending up with a scrap piece. How do you rate yourselves?
    129
    I'm still trying to figure out how to make sawdust
    10.85%
    14
    I need a detailed project plan and any mistakes lead to scrap
    11.63%
    15
    Still need a plan, but I can usually repair a mistake I make
    10.85%
    14
    I can start with a plan but make any modifications or additions I need
    13.95%
    18
    I start with a piece of paper and a pencil and work from there
    48.06%
    62
    I don't need no stinkin' plan, I just wing it
    4.65%
    6
    I can do all of the above without accumulating a speck of dust
    0.00%
    0
    - Dennis

    "If your mind goes blank, don't forget to turn off the sound." --Red Green
    and yes, it's a potato.
  • Wood_workur
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 1914
    • Ohio
    • Ryobi bt3100-1

    #2
    I see Rod hasn't voted yet. (last onehas 0 votes)
    Alex

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    • dwolsten
      Established Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 122
      • Chandler, AZ, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      I'm a pretty new woodworker, but I haven't done a project yet that didn't have some modifications from the plans. That's part of the fun of the hobby; why make something exactly like someone else did, when you can customize it somehow or make it suit your needs better?

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      • Pappy
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 10479
        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 (x2)

        #4
        I usually work from my own plans/sketches. How detailed they get depends on the project. I have a lot of plans that I downloaded but those that I have used ended up heavily modified to my needs or preferences.

        There are times when I wing it from an idea in my head.
        Don, aka Pappy,

        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
        Fools because they have to say something.
        Plato

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        • lcm1947
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 1490
          • Austin, Texas
          • BT 3100-1

          #5
          God knows I'm still learning but I've come a long ways and a lot of the thanks actually and really go to this forum. I am light years ahead of where I would have been had I not discovered this forum and the truely fine bunch of guys that hang around here. Sincerely. Now I hope I haven't made any body start crying.
          May you die and go to heaven before the Devil knows you're dead. My Best, Mac

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          • cwsmith
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 2797
            • NY Southern Tier, USA.
            • BT3100-1

            #6
            I voted with "Start with a piece of paper", but actually I use the computer. Having spent my career illustrating technical stuff, I can usually plan everything out that way.

            I also spend an inordinate amount of time reading or studying the details of a project before I start something that I may not be familiar with. (To a point where I spend more time preparing than I do producing.)

            CWS
            Think it Through Before You Do!

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            • Warren
              Established Member
              • Jan 2003
              • 441
              • Anchorage, Ak
              • BT3000

              #7
              I'm not sure if any of these choices relate to turning out a good product. I checked starting with a piece of paper and pencil. This is my usual routine, but I work from plans also, usually modifying to my taste. It all depends on the project. One of my credos is "have a plan."

              But, when I started woodworking I turned out ill fitting garbage, with or without plans. Patience and attention to detail, skills slowly and painfully learned, now assiduously applied, have help me become a competent woodworker.
              A man without a shillelagh, is a man without an expidient.

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              • drumpriest
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2004
                • 3338
                • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
                • Powermatic PM 2000

                #8
                I'm with CWS, I do a 3D model of any project that is complicated enough to really need a "plan". Simpler projects usually get a rough sketch and fine details are hammered out on the fly.

                I'm building the Rockler futon at some point this year, that'll be my 2nd project ever from a plan.
                Keith Z. Leonard
                Go Steelers!

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                • jabe
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 577
                  • Hilo, Hawaii
                  • Ryobi BT3000 & Delta Milwaukee 10" tilting Table circular saw

                  #9
                  I voted "I start w/pencil & Paper", I've been into wood working for over 30 yrs and have taught it for 25+ years. Currently running a cabinet making/remodleing business. I always taught plan first b4 cutting or buying anything. Without planning, you wouldn't be able to generate a material list, material cost, labor cost, profit margin, and most important having the job/project go smoothly. Planning is 50% of the project even if you're not doing woodworking as a business. Making your mistakes on paper is cheaper than cutting a board 1/8" short.

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                  • mater
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4197
                    • SC, USA.

                    #10
                    I am always learning but I look at a picture or get an idea and sketch it on paper. I am no artist but I make do.
                    Ken aka "mater"

                    " People may doubt what you say but they will never doubt what you do "

                    Ken's Den

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                    • BigguyZ
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1818
                      • Minneapolis, MN
                      • Craftsman, older type w/ cast iron top

                      #11
                      I voted for "use plans but can correct mistakes". However, I do make my own plans, I guess. What counts as plans? Where do you get plans? What I typically do is look at pictures/ examples of somone else's contruction and see if that's what I want to do. Then I draw it up, incorporating multiple features from more than one example. I want to build a wine cabinet/ bar. I don't know where to find detailed plans, but I looked at a bunch and now I think I know how I want to do the legs, top, and cabinet as well. The top is still up in the air.

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                      • LarryG
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2004
                        • 6693
                        • Off The Back
                        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                        #12
                        I agree with Warren that the choices don't at all reflect one's skill as a woodworker, but only how one approaches the planning of a project.

                        [/nitpick]

                        I chose the "I start with a piece of paper and a pencil ..." answer. This despite the fact I earn my living, such as it is, doing architecture and running CAD. There have been a couple times I've drawn a project up on the computer but most of the time I just sketch out the basics of what I want to do on a few sheets of graph paper and take it from there.
                        Larry

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                        • Otter
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 865
                          • Cumming, GA, USA.
                          • Delta Left Tilt UniSaw

                          #13
                          Whats saw dust?

                          I thought this was a form for Navy Boiler Techs

                          welll pop my bubble.
                          All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible

                          T.E. Lawrence

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                          • Thom2
                            Resident BT3Central Research Ass.
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1786
                            • Stevens, PA, USA.
                            • Craftsman 22124

                            #14
                            I can't vote

                            there's no choice for .....

                            "I don't need no stinkin' plan .... oh crap ... maybe I should start with pencil and paper .... SUNUVAmaybe I should start with a plan .... (@#&$@(#& .... I'll go find a detailed plan ..... (#&$(# mistakes, and all this scrap #(&$(#&"

                            If it ain't broke.. don't fix it!!!... but you can always 'hop it up'
                            **one and only purchaser of a BT3C official thong**

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                            • charliex
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 632
                              • Spring Valley, MN, USA.
                              • Sears equivelent BT3100-1

                              #15
                              assiduously ?? Your kidding right? What's a margin of profit? Since this is a hobby I though it's supposed to include cost overuns, time delays, ulcers and no profit. Okay I rough out approximate drawings but then "wing it". I make more changes after I start a project than when I'm sketching. Besides if I cut something 1/8" short I can just make the item 1/8" shorter that way it's not an error it's a design change.
                              I almost forgot, Rod we need your "no sawdust" vote to keep this poll "fair and balanced".
                              Last edited by charliex; 07-27-2006, 11:17 AM.

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