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  • JTimmons
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 690
    • Denver, CO.
    • Grizzly 1023SLX, Ryobi BT3100

    #16
    What else do you need?

    A loving and supporting wife for your new hobby. If you cannot get this I suggest a shop with a nice comfortable couch inside (otherwise known as the doghouse). I might also suggest a set of earplugs for selective hearing purposes.

    As Pappy would say it, welcome to the asylum!
    "Happiness is your dentist telling you it won't hurt and then having him catch his hand in the drill."
    -- Johnny Carson

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    • 430752
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2004
      • 855
      • Northern NJ, USA.
      • BT3100

      #17
      I had answered over in the other forum, and still stand by the argument to get the table saw accesory kit which gives you a working router table and some other minor stuff.

      But, I see this is becoming a wood discussion and I have to agree that once you move beyond trim, etc. and into furniture or etc., then a planer and jointer come more in handy. Believe it or not, the wood from the BORG/Lowes is kinda rough. Well, not *rough*, but I'll put it this way, take two boards from the BORG and run one thru a nice planer (I prefer the dewalt 735), and tell me which one is smoother.

      well, whatever, as far as the molding and trim work, you look well set-up with the exception of router table and dust collection.

      curt j.
      A Man is incomplete until he gets married ... then he's FINISHED!!!

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      • Copper
        Established Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 343
        • Madison, WI.
        • BT3100

        #18
        I've also just started in woodworking and keep a close eye on the classifieds. I like to watch craigslist (http://baltimore.craigslist.org/) They have listings in most major cities and if you check it regularly, you can usually find some slightly used major tools for fairly cheap. I just picked up an older model Craftsman jointer that was hardly used for $50 last week. It's especially helpful if you're not in a hurry to buy the stuff and can wait until a deal comes along.
        - Dennis

        "If your mind goes blank, don't forget to turn off the sound." --Red Green
        and yes, it's a potato.

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        • kmk
          Established Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 415
          • .Portland, Oregon
          • BT3100-1

          #19
          My thoughts...

          I think there is lot of fun in acquiring tools slowly as
          you need them and as you develop your skills. When you
          don't have a necessary tool, you tend to design
          your own jigs etc. And, thats lot of fun and learning.



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          • Russianwolf
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 3152
            • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
            • One of them there Toy saws

            #20
            You can bypass the jointer for the time being and edge joint on the BT3 with a jig. Then you'll only need the planer for the surfacing. Many hardwood places will even surface the wood for you for a small charge and they will STILL be cheaper and have more choices than the Large retail suppliers.

            Another thing to think of add. a Dust Collector. The popular choice if the HF 2hp unit, but where you are setting up shop may dictate the collector.
            Mike
            Lakota's Dad

            If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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            • WEG
              Established Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 298
              • Nahant, MA.

              #21
              Hi Larry David;
              You're ready to 'rock and roll'... all you need now is a "Kitchen Pass" Take Loring's advice, get some wood and go to it. Being a beginner, you will find all kinds of neat things to do and learn about. That will help you decide what additional toys..er..tools you will need. I would guess you probably aren't quite ready for shapers, jointers, planers, but do look into dust collection. Even beginners need to protect their lungs [8D]. And get some safety equipment...I really like the "Grrripper" and two are better...also glasses or face shield. Just like Mum said; "Can't be too careful you know...stop running with that screwdriver!"
              Good luck and welcome aboard.
              WEG

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              • JimD
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2003
                • 4187
                • Lexington, SC.

                #22
                Larry,

                For you trim projects you seem to have the tools you need. I've done a little crown moulding and recommend you make a wooden block to mark the ceiling and walls with the distance you want the moulding to be installed out from the corner. I like to find the ceiling joists and wall studs first then I mark the distance out for the moulding at the joist and stud locations. My corners fit much better when I get the moulding where I want it on the wall. With a 12 inch CMS, you should be able to cut some pretty large crown upside down if you use stops. These can be as simple as a piece of straight scrap clamped to the CMS. I find it much easier to visualize things this way as opposed to flat with compound angles. I like to make up a piece of scrap 2 to 3 feet long to try the copes before cutting the piece I intend to use. Saves some frustration.

                To make cabinets, you need a router table to make raised panel doors. These are pretty simple with a router table but almost not possible without it. I have made 3, each better than the last. What I started with in our current house was a setup in an extension table of the BT3100. It was pretty nice (and it used my PC690) but my new table has a built-in router lift.

                I recommend you do the trim pretty much with the tools you have and then treat yourself to a mobile base for the BT3100 and a wide table kit. You can build-in a router table to the accessory table. You will then be set up to make cabinets.

                Jim

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                • Larry David
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 82
                  • Maryland.

                  #23
                  Thanks for all the great responses. I am going to get a dust collector next week. Not sure which one yet. The 2hp HF unit was suggested, I'll check it out. I do have a large shop-vac that will connect up to the BT3100 and my bandsaw. I'll use that in the meantime.

                  I was in Lowes to pickup some wood and they had a Bosch Router 1617EVSP Router and the router box was shrinked wrapped with another box for the Bosch Deluxe Router Guide all for $219. I just had to take it home.... I also bought the Bosch laminate router table that was just sitting there screaming at me to go home with the router...another $169. I'm sure they'll be happy together. I picked up a couple of Bosch bits as well. An expensive day at Lowes.

                  I know a few of you guys told me to build my own router table and that's what I intended to do but I wanted to use my new router as soon as possible in a table.

                  My youngest son (10 years old) requested that my first project should be a small "treasure chest" for some of his stuff. I have some wood, plenty of tools and machinery I think...time to make a small treasure chest..

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                  • Jeffrey Schronce
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3822
                    • York, PA, USA.
                    • 22124

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Larry David
                    Thanks for all the great responses. I am going to get a dust collector next week. Not sure which one yet. The 2hp HF unit was suggested, I'll check it out. I do have a large shop-vac that will connect up to the BT3100 and my bandsaw. I'll use that in the meantime.

                    I was in Lowes to pickup some wood and they had a Bosch Router 1617EVSP Router and the router box was shrinked wrapped with another box for the Bosch Deluxe Router Guide all for $219. I just had to take it home.... I also bought the Bosch laminate router table that was just sitting there screaming at me to go home with the router...another $169. I'm sure they'll be happy together. I picked up a couple of Bosch bits as well. An expensive day at Lowes.

                    I know a few of you guys told me to build my own router table and that's what I intended to do but I wanted to use my new router as soon as possible in a table.

                    My youngest son (10 years old) requested that my first project should be a small "treasure chest" for some of his stuff. I have some wood, plenty of tools and machinery I think...time to make a small treasure chest..
                    Bosch Router 1617EVSP was an excellent purchase. Great fundamental router and the plunge base is wonderful. I use a 1617 Fixed Base in my router table and have a second 1617 I can use the other fixed base or plunge. I like the Bosch router table. I think it is way over priced (like most router tables) but it can get you routing safely. Read the manual for the router. Play with the router for a few days, then re-read the manual. It will then make more sense! Everyone highly recommends the Holbren 24 bit set. I have a set coming tommorow. You can find a discount code on BTCetnral via Search Function for the bits at Holbren. Buying the basic bits individually at Lowes is going to get VERY expensive.

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