thank you all for the kind remarks! the new owner wasn't nearly as enthusiastic as you guys are, he did say the look real nice.
he actually got a smoking deal, i under estimated how long it would take me....but i learned now why the company that builds their cabinets like i did charges twice as much , but i needed work. i enjoyed working on them.
Great job on the cabinets! Did you iron on the edge banding or do you have
a fancy machine to do it? That's A LOT of edging.
thanks! i did iron on by hand, i dont have a machine. next time, i think i am going to ask a cabinet shop to edge band for me or find a place locally that will edge band for me instead of me doing it. i almost went through 400ft of edeg banding by iron. it would take those places a few hours as opposed to days
Originally posted by chopnhack
I am curious Omar, on what part of the estimating did you underestimate? Build time, materials, or on delivery and install? Did you profit?
first a short answer: build time, delivery and install
longer answer:
typically the cabinets that are built around here are basically put togather on the wall....the guys shows up with a truck with all the cut pieces and starts nailing on the vertical and horzontal nailing strips and then installs the sides and so on, the whole series are built right on the wall.
i got estimates and the company that builds individual units (like i planned on building, meaning each unit was seperate like our kitchen cabinets are built) was like double of everyone else....i thought well there is some extra material involved, but its not enough to cost twice a much....so i just gave him the estimate of the typical garage cabinets and i was going to swallow the extra material, after all, this would give me a learning opportunity.
so what i didnt account for when you build these individual units, is they take up a lot of space to assemble, store (while they are in your shop), handling requires a lot more time, and did i mention that the units are heavy, i mean really heavy. i thought i could wrestle the units around myself, but you need two people at least at that moment. then their transportation isnt any where the same way as just piled up lumber, i dont have a trailer, i thought i could lay it in my van be ok, but again the weight prohibited that.....another example, they like to make 6ft doors + 2ft doors, never 8ft, now i understand, its also has a handling issue, so there quite a few things that i learned why they do what they do.....then when i went to install, i had some fun and learned a few things for next time.
in essence, when he moves, he can take them down and take them to the next house, but you cant do that to the typical ones.
so i did make money, but when you factor in the time i spend to make them in my limited space and what i had to do to get them there and other stuff, the rate needs to be higher next time around. the company that makes them they way i did, charges twice as much, now i know why. that is all what i meant by what i had said above.
i enjoyed the process, it was frustrating at times, but that is life. i didnt think i could pull it off, i was hesitant, but i feel more confident now.
hey jon! i have been meaning to call you. i bought that camera about 2 weeks ago......it great! thanks for the suggestion.
there was something on the inner lens and just yesterday mailed it back to amazon and they will have a replacement one to me tomorrow! their service is amazing so far.....we will see when this all done
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