Tube amp for the guitar...not much wwing!

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  • Knottscott
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    • Dec 2004
    • 3815
    • Rochester, NY.
    • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

    #1

    Tube amp for the guitar...not much wwing!

    This project was a followup for the guitar I finished in October for my 16 year old son (http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...hlight=guitar). It's a ~ 3 watt class A tube amp made on a 1939 Stromberg-Carlson radio chassis, which was made right here in Rochester, NY. The chassis is stuffed inside an old American Bosch radio....built roughly between 1928 and 1941. I salvaged the power transformer, rectifier tube, and 6V6G output tube from the Strom-Carl. Other parts were obtained from Ebay, spare parts, and a local electronics surplus place...the pre-amp tube is a 12AX7 that I plucked from my Mom's old intercom. It's got an on/off switch w/light, standby switch, master volume, gain control, bass, mid, and treble. It's currently mated to a 12" EV speaker cabinet we roughed out several weeks ago, which is something we'll finish into a presentable package this winter. The guitar, amp, and speaker cab were all custom built by us.

    The schematic is a modified version of the P1 Extreme from the AX84 project amp website...fairly similar to the old Fender Champ or Les Paul Junior. We're tossing around the idea of calling it the "Fender Bender", "Night Light", or "Glow Worm". I still plan to cover up some of the scratches and add a handle.

    It sounds awesome and is surprisingly loud. Never build anything like this before....a very cool project, and best of all "Mr. Santana" seems happy with it.

    Total cost for the amp was maybe $50, the guitar ~ $150, and the speaker was < $20. I should probably add a safety warning/disclaimer....the voltage in these amps are high and can be fatal if you're not careful. If you ever build one and need to probe, be cautious and keep one hand behind your back to avoid the charge from jolting your heart....keep in mind that the filter caps can store a voltage for a very long time....I got zapped twice so far!

    Edit: added a handle for good measure...




    Last edited by Knottscott; 12-20-2006, 06:52 AM.
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  • bmyers
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    • Jun 2003
    • 1371
    • Fishkill, NY
    • bt 3100

    #2
    I'm going to nominate your for Dad of the Year, 2006. That's simply a killer Ax and Amp. The whole idea is just too cool for words.


    Bill
    Last edited by bmyers; 12-17-2006, 11:55 AM.
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    • lrogers
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      • Dec 2002
      • 3853
      • Mobile, AL. USA.
      • BT3000

      #3
      Very classic looking.
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      • wardprobst
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        • Jan 2006
        • 681
        • Wichita Falls, TX, USA.
        • Craftsman 22811

        #4
        Very cool, second the Dad o' Year!
        DP
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        • dkerfoot
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          • Mar 2004
          • 1094
          • Holland, Michigan
          • Craftsman 21829

          #5
          Originally posted by Dustmight
          If you ever build one and need to probe, be cautious and keep one hand behind your back to avoid the charge from jolting your heart....keep in mind that the filter caps can store a voltage for a very long time....I got zapped twice so far!
          Very cool - but I am concerned about you having been jolted twice. That is kinda like saying that you had nicked your finger a couple of times on your tablesaw while doing the project. Clearly you are doing something very, very wrong.

          I am glad you are OK and the "one hand in your back pocket" method can help, but you should never be getting zapped. Electricity and the heart is a funny thing - a seemingly "really bad" shock can have no lasting effect while a very minor one (I have seen this) can cause you to collapse several minutes later.

          Please do a search on how to properly discharge capacitors.
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          • Knottscott
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            • Dec 2004
            • 3815
            • Rochester, NY.
            • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

            #6
            Thanks for the concern....both times I was zapped I was poking around and hit something I shouldn't have. I tried to use the awareness of my ignorace as an ally, but once in a while stupidity prevailed over all! Guess I live closer to the "home of the brave" than "intellectual property" or a "think tank"!

            One time I was testing the amp for power, and turned on the yet unmounted standby switch and completed the circuit with my thumb instead of the switch...kind of stupid, and fortunately the amperage is low. The other was from a filter cap....just need to be more careful where I put my hands! Also fortunately I tend to touch gingerally as opposed to just grabbing something.

            One thing I didn't mention was the mentoring of an experienced amp builder and good friend with an EE degree. The schematics, my mods, and my layouts were reviewed several times by both to minimize the big risks of charging the chassis or guitar strings by accident.

            I will bone up on proper techniques for future explorations!
            Last edited by Knottscott; 12-17-2006, 09:41 AM.
            Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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            • Wood_workur
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              • Aug 2005
              • 1914
              • Ohio
              • Ryobi bt3100-1

              #7
              that is really cool.
              Alex

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              • maxparot
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                • Jan 2004
                • 1421
                • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
                • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

                #8
                One thing you may consider adding to the amps filter caps is a bleed resistor. This is a resistor that is of high enough value to keep it from effecting the power supply while the amp is on. What is does is bleed the power from the caps after you turn the amp off. With this added a few seconds after the amp has been turned off and with the amp unplugged the danger of being zapped is eliminated.
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                • John Hunter
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 2034
                  • Lake Station, IN, USA.
                  • BT3000 & BT3100

                  #9
                  Very nice.
                  John Hunter

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                  • JSCOOK
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 774
                    • Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
                    • Ryobi BT3100-1

                    #10
                    Very nice ... I would have loved that when I was 16 ... makes me thinking of digging out my stuff now and messing around ...
                    "Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn". by C.S. Lewis

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                    • mater
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4197
                      • SC, USA.

                      #11
                      That is very nice and neat looking.
                      Ken aka "mater"

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                      • GeekMom
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                        • Dec 2004
                        • 752
                        • Bonney Lake, WA.
                        • Shopsmith Mark V

                        #12
                        Very nice!
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