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  • kwgeorge
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 1419
    • Alvin, TX, USA.

    #1

    Newly refurbished;

    Well I am at it again. I decided to add some more planes to my collection so I picked up a No3 and a No4 off of Ebay pretty reasonable. Now realize that both of these are pretty plentiful and are not considered all that collectable even though they are quite old. I want tools I can use and not just look at so I decided I would buy rather junky looking ones cheaply and refurbish them. My other option to get ones as good as these pre WWII models would have been Lie-Nielsen.

    Looking at the original pictures from the auction you can see they are pretty rusted and nasty looking but they were complete and with no damage or repairs to the knob and handle.

    http://theturnersshop.com/images/3&4/3&4.jpg

    This is how they turned out.

    The No3 (type 5 1885 – 1888) had the blade was replaced before I got it with one that had the Sweetheart logo on it. Almost none of the Japanning was left on the plane once I soaked the dirt off in hot soapy water. It was quite the challenge to get the frog adjusted where I wanted it without that screw adjustment behind it but I got it done and really like the results. It is very smooth and works very nice.



    The rust on this No4 (Type 14 1929 – 1930) was much harder to get off and there is a bit of pitting near the rear of this side but none on the other nor bottom. It had a cheesy blade on it and I replaced it with a Lie-Nielsen. It works also quite well.



    The handles and knobs on both of these were refinished completely with Danish oil then Lacquer. I am very pleased with the results and am looking forward to using them in my shop.

    Ken
  • Whaler
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2002
    • 3281
    • Sequim, WA, USA.
    • DW746

    #2
    Very nice Ken.
    Dick

    http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rgpete2/

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    • Jim Boyd
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2002
      • 1766
      • Montgomery, Texas, USA.
      • Delta Unisaw

      #3
      Your are catching up, and soon we won't be able to help you with your significant other
      Jim in Texas and Sicko Ryobi Cult Member ©

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      • mikel
        Established Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 202
        • philadelphia
        • bt 3100

        #4
        Looks great. I'm affraid mine have gotten back to their before status...

        How do you polish them up ?

        ...michael

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        • lrogers
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2002
          • 3853
          • Mobile, AL. USA.
          • BT3000

          #5
          They look better than new!
          Larry R. Rogers
          The Samurai Wood Butcher
          http://splash54.multiply.com
          http://community.webshots.com/user/splash54

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          • John Hunter
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 2034
            • Lake Station, IN, USA.
            • BT3000 & BT3100

            #6
            Very nice.
            John Hunter

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            • atgcpaul
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2003
              • 4055
              • Maryland
              • Grizzly 1023SLX

              #7
              Good work! Did you use any electrolosis to get the rust off?

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              • vaking
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 1428
                • Montclair, NJ, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3100-1

                #8
                Please forgive my ignorance. Can you guys tell me the general difference between No3 and No4? I have seen both being called "bench planes" but I have not seen them side by side.
                My collection includes No4, No5 and No6, no No3. Where would I use it?
                Alex V

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                • kwgeorge
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1419
                  • Alvin, TX, USA.

                  #9
                  Thanks everybody, I am kind of getting addicted to these things!

                  Jim, you have no idea man! I have not mentioned the Block Planes, Spokeshaves, Scrapers or Multi-Planes I have bought yet or my Lie-Nielsens!

                  Michael, well after an electrolysis bath I learned that a fine wire wheel on my bench buffer does wonders to remove the black crap left from the bath. If yours are not too bad the fine wire wheel would probably do you but make sure it is the fine wire and don’t apply a lot of pressure.

                  Paul, yes I did.

                  Alex, well for one thing the No3 is smaller than the No4. My 3 is 2-1/16” wide by 8-3/4” long with a blade width of 1-3/4”. The 4 is 2-3/8” wide 9-3/8” long with a 2” blade. With this the 3 is quite a bit lighter than the 4 and thus for me it is a good tool for final fitting a long drawer or such when a block plane is just a bit too small. I also like the feel of it better than the 4 as I can only get 3 fingers around the handle so my index finger extends out. I feel I have good control of this plane. I have also found that a “Bench Plane” when properly sharpened will cut endgrain just fine so I have been using it for that also when I need just a bit of extra push! If you look around you will find many that prefer the 3 to the 4.

                  Ken

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                  • mater
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4197
                    • SC, USA.

                    #10
                    Very nice restoring work Ken. They look good.
                    Ken aka "mater"

                    " People may doubt what you say but they will never doubt what you do "

                    Ken's Den

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                    • heartwood
                      Forum Newbie
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 13
                      • Stroud, OK
                      • delta 34-670

                      #11
                      I agree with Larry, they do look better than new! In the pics, they appear to have a certain "warmth", unlike the brand new ones found today.
                      Excellent job!!!

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                      • ChrisD
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 881
                        • CHICAGO, IL, USA.

                        #12
                        Nice work, Ken! Very high-quality, as always.

                        Do you have a writeup on the procedure on your site? Sorry, too lazy right now to snoop around.
                        The war against inferior and overpriced furniture continues!

                        Chris

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                        • mikel
                          Established Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 202
                          • philadelphia
                          • bt 3100

                          #13
                          You have insired me to clean mine up...

                          I hope they look half that good...'


                          Thanks...


                          ...mikel

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                          • Pappy
                            The Full Monte
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 10490
                            • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                            • BT3000 (x2)

                            #14
                            You are totaly hooked, Ken. The next step is to start mixing your own brew for Japanning!
                            Don, aka Pappy,

                            Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                            Fools because they have to say something.
                            Plato

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                            • Wood_workur
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1914
                              • Ohio
                              • Ryobi bt3100-1

                              #15
                              very nice. how do they cut?
                              Alex

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