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  • rickd
    Established Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 422
    • Cowichan Bay, 30 mi. north of Victoria, B.C., Canada.
    • Ryobi BT3100

    cedar garden bench & a finishing question

    hi,

    i've just completed this cedar garden bench i've been working on for the past 3 weeks or so:

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    now, i have to decide whether to leave it 'natural' and just let it age and turn grey; or, to use sealers, stain, poly etc. to try and preserve the look and color. i've had advice both ways, so i'd really appreciate any ideas anyone here may have.

    here's a link to the some of the project progress pics i took along the way:



    thanks.
    rick doyle

    Rick's Woodworking Website
  • John Hunter
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 2034
    • Lake Station, IN, USA.
    • BT3000 & BT3100

    #2
    Very nice!
    John Hunter

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    • JR
      The Full Monte
      • Feb 2004
      • 5633
      • Eugene, OR
      • BT3000

      #3
      I made a ver similar bench using redwood. I used uv-resistant poly. The results have beed decidedly mixed.

      The poly has worn away in some places. Where the poly is still in place the color has stayed like new. I touched it up last spring by sanding the bare areas and rea-applying the poly. It wasn't too difficult, but it wants the same treatment again this year.

      I asked at the unfinished furniture store about this problem and got a big shrug. There doesn't appear to be great alternative. Spar varnish would be my suggestion if you want to go down this path.

      JR

      Oh, BTW, great looking bench!
      JR

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      • cabinetman
        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
        • Jun 2006
        • 15218
        • So. Florida
        • Delta

        #4
        Rick

        Glad to see it together. I like the natural look. Maybe think about just an oil finish, one that is easy to maintain. Great looking - good work!



        "I'M NEVER WRONG - BUT I'M NOT ALWAYS RIGHT"

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        • jackellis
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 2638
          • Tahoe City, CA, USA.
          • BT3100

          #5
          We have cedar (California, Western?) plank decks at Lake Tahoe and use a stain called Duckback Natural to protect it from UV. The wood has gradually turned golden, then progressively more reddish as we've reapplied the stain every year.

          The more pigment in your treatment, the better the wood is protected, but of course you lose the natural look of the wood that way also. Duckback Natural has a little pigment in it, which means annual or biennial reapplications for us (Tahoe is at 6,000 feet and UV is INTENSE). However we do get lots of compliments about the condition of our decks.

          By all means protect the wood. You'll be glad you did.

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          • Wood_workur
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2005
            • 1914
            • Ohio
            • Ryobi bt3100-1

            #6
            I like that. Looks like the wood mag. plans.

            I agree on using oil- very easy. You can apply it with a garden sprayer. (the hand pump kind, not the ones you hook up to a hose)
            Alex

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            • Tom Miller
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              • Mar 2003
              • 2507
              • Twin Cities, MN
              • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

              #7
              Looks great, Rick!

              Concerning finish -- I'll have better data for you in a couple years, but for now:

              Up until this spring, I was in the "let it go natural" camp regarding our back deck (cedar), and we originally had a spar varnish on the front porch decking (tongue-and-groove cedar), which I think lifts prematurely. We had the house painted this spring after last year's addition project, and needed the front porch decking re-finished. So, we decided to have the back deck done, too. They used a penetrating oil stain on front and back (Cabot, IIRC), which cures to a much more substantial finish than I imagined. And, boy does it look nice, now!

              I don't think this type of finish is very finicky to apply, so reapplying every two to three years should be pretty easy.

              Regards,
              Tom

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              • dlminehart
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 1829
                • San Jose, CA, USA.

                #8
                I believe that Cabot is top rated in Consumer Reports. It costs more, but seems to be worth it.
                - David

                “Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.” -- Oscar Wilde

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                • mater
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4197
                  • SC, USA.

                  #9
                  It looks great. I enjoyed the progress pics.
                  Ken aka "mater"

                  " People may doubt what you say but they will never doubt what you do "

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                  • Woodwerker
                    Established Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 490
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                    #10
                    Looks GREAT
                    I used cabot oil stain for the cedar fence I built and can't say enough about how great the stain enhanced the wood. I love cedar, its easy to work with, and gives great results.
                    Every tool you own is broken, you just don't know it yet :-)

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                    • SHADOWFOX
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 1232
                      • IL, USA.
                      • DELTA 36-675

                      #11
                      Rick,

                      That bench is amazing!! Good job, sir!

                      Regards,
                      Chris

                      "The first key to wisdom is constant and frequent questioning, for by doubting we are led to question and by questioning we arrive at the truth." -Pierre Abelard 11th Century philosopher.

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                      • Ken Weaver
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 2417
                        • Clemson, SC, USA
                        • Rigid TS3650

                        #12
                        That is really nice looking Rick - great job. I used deck sealer on my adirondack stsuff in the garden and it seems to hold up well. The difference is I didn't make them out of such great looking wood as yours. I think I'd try to stay with a sealer or such that will allow the wood to retain as much of its chracter as possible.
                        Ken Weaver
                        Clemson, SC

                        "A mistake is absolute proof that someone tried to do something!

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                        • Ken Massingale
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 3862
                          • Liberty, SC, USA.
                          • Ridgid TS3650

                          #13
                          Another real nice piece, Rick. Thanks for the progress pics.
                          ken

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                          • lrogers
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3853
                            • Mobile, AL. USA.
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            That is a tuff question Rick. The natural look is good, but look of "fresh cedar" is also good. I think it would be toss of the coin. What ever you decide on finish, that is one fine looking bench.
                            Larry R. Rogers
                            The Samurai Wood Butcher
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                            • GPA61
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 709
                              • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
                              • BT 3100 & JET JWTS

                              #15
                              Great looking bench Rick.
                              Claudio

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