Adding Dual Slot Miter Tables

[annunaki]

I have a Sears 21829.
I saw photos once of a BT3000, or Bt3100 that had Two Dual Miter Slots mounted on each side of the main saw table. They were metal and sold as a kit/accessory, there was also a photo of three installed on the table.
Would this work with my Sears 21829, and where can I get them?

[Uncle Cracker]

I have one set on each side of the blade on my BT. The one on the right side of the blade must be reversed to clear the BT cabinet properly. There is a guy who sells them regularly on Ebay, and another guy (also on Ebay) with a hardware kit that more easily mounts the one on the right side of the blade. Do an Ebay search for "BT3000" and you should find them.

[Hoover]

It is: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZkomatoast69

[annunaki]

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[annunaki]

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[Uncle Cracker]

I don't know what that is all about... Perhaps "getthenews.net" is a hosting site that has been used by someone unscrupulous in the past. Komatoast has been an Ebay seller for years, and has a 2300/100% positive feedback score. I have bought stuff from him myself, with no regrets. Just make your purchase through Ebay, and you'll be fine.

[pelligrini]

He is a member here, but I haven't seen him post anything in quite some time. http://www.bt3central.com/member.php?u=904 There's some links in his profile.

Loring's FAQ has some good places to get the Ryobi dual slot tables.

You won't be able to use the stock craftsman miter assembley without removing the retainer washer on the end. The Ryobi slots have square corners, they're not like the T-slot type miter channels, like the ones on the Craftsman accessory table.

[dkerfoot]

The dual slot miter tables work fine on the 21829. I have done it.

Mounting a table to the right of the blade requires some special hardware. Do a search and you'll find a link I am sure.

I bought two and added them, and later removed the left hand table. The problem is that having it there moved the SMT too far away from the blade for my comfort. I still use the SMT for the majority of crosscuts. Having the dual slot table to the right, allows me to use it with jigs and sleds. For cross-cut sleds, I just use the left side of the table to guide the left runner.

I'd recommend you buy just one and mount it in the standard position to the left of the blade first and decide if you like it there. If you do, then you can consider getting a 2nd table and the right mount kit.

If you don't like it on the left, you can consider getting just the right mount kit and moving it there (where I keep mine)

[gjat]

Question

I have a miter slot that I'm preparing to mount on the right side. I like the SMT, but it seems to have a bit of 'slop' and I'm more used to miter slot jigs. Particularly for a cross cut table that would traditionally use two slots, I'd like to have one side utilize the SMT and the other side use the slot. Any problems with that idea?

[Uncle Cracker]

I have a miter slot that I'm preparing to mount on the right side. I like the SMT, but it seems to have a bit of 'slop' and I'm more used to miter slot jigs. Particularly for a cross cut table that would traditionally use two slots, I'd like to have one side utilize the SMT and the other side use the slot. Any problems with that idea?

The "slop" you refer to could pose an alignment problem, as the SMT side of your sled would have some free play, or possibly not be exactly parallel with the right-side miter slot, and that ain't good...

[sparkeyjames]

Just remember if you get one without the mounting kit you will need 1/16" shims to bring it up to near the center table height. Also I wrote a small article on this site about modifying the existing 21829's miter gauge for use in the dual miter slot table. The miter gauge is worthless for use in the router table as you can just swing the miter slide table around to use it with the router table.

Also an properly aligned SMT should have little to no slop. At least mine does not have more than .001 side to side.
If your having trouble aligning your SMT ask LCHIEN for the BT FAQ.


Here is the article for modifying the miter gauge for use in the dual miter slot table.

http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=32229

Enjoy

Jim

[LarryG]

Particularly for a cross cut table that would traditionally use two slots, I'd like to have one side utilize the SMT and the other side use the slot. Any problems with that idea?

Not sure I understand how you'd set this up, but if the SMT would be sliding along with your add-on cross-cut table, the total travel would be limited to that of the SMT. This was one of the things I didn't like about the SMT ... it worked reasonably well up to a point, but when you hit that point, you were pretty much stuck; it made it more difficult to improvise than with a conventional miter-slot-and-gauge setup.

[dkerfoot]

I agree you should have no "slop" on the SMT. Probably just an alignment issue. Be sure to understand the process before you begin turning screws. It take a bit of work to get it aligned perfectly, but once there it will remain true until you drop it.

I use the dual slot miter table (DSMT) to the right and the SMT to the left on my 21829, just as you are considering. Works great for me. I occasionally use the DSMT with my Incra miter gauge if I need an exact angle, just because it locks in more quickly than the SMT. But I'd say I use the SMT 95% of the time. Once you have it aligned right, it is a huge improvement for cross-cutting, especially for larger work pieces.

Mostly, the DSMT is there for jigs. One note - I originally tried making cross cut sleds with two runners in the dual slots - I could never get that quite right. It was always either "sticky' or sloppy. Instead, try one runner in one of the dual slots and the other against the left side of the saw body.

I also used the base from a broken SMT (a BT3er gave it to me for shipping costs) to build an align-able single miter slot table. It is very handy because you can add it or remove it in seconds. I haven't used it a lot, but there have been occasions where it has been very helpful.

[KomaToast]

The site was hacked and links added a few weeks ago.
There was only one PHP file that linked to some porn sites.
What was crazy is that after the site was hacked they spammed me with a URL to my own site.
I knew that URL didn't exist so I clicked on it to see what happened, it just opens to a page with the links.
I deleted the file but didn't know anything about this Google warning thing until I read this post.
I've requested Google to review the site again and remove the warning.
It's pending review now but no telling how long that will take.

Thanks for the heads up on the Google warning thing.

Keith