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  • Stytooner
    Roll Tide RIP Lee
    • Dec 2002
    • 4301
    • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
    • BT3100

    #1

    Check your nuts often.

    This is a reminder to check your riving knife nuts on these saws often. This goes for the shark knife, modified, shop made or factory guard. I have had one customer that had his nuts loosen up somehow and the knife made contact with his blade.

    Here is his first email after he had placed an order for a new knife.

    You might be interested in why I need a new riving knife. This weekend I was making a small cut with my cross cut sled. In one instant I saw a spark, heard a noise and had pain in my neck. I went to inspect my neck and found a few cuts, but nothing serious. I figured I hit something in the wood and maybe knocked some teeth off the blade. I went back to the shop and was inspecting the blade when I realized the riving knife was missing (it's still AWOL) and saw some curls of metal, which caused the cuts on my neck. I figure the nuts holding the knife came loose over time and the knife slipped down onto the blade. A few curls were shaved off and then the knife was launched. I'll be using lock washers on the new knife.


    I sent him a new knife and now supply lock nuts on all Ryobi and like riving knives and Shark Guard. If you want these on your's the size is 5/16 18. Any local hardware store should carry these. Probably even Wally World.

    Remember, you can never check your nuts too often. I think there may be a Shark Knife in orbit around the earth now.

    Lee
  • siliconbauhaus
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 925
    • hagerstown, md

    #2
    Thanks for the tip

    I think my nuts would loosen up if the knife made contact with the blade
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    neoshed

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    • radhak
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 3061
      • Miramar, FL
      • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

      #3
      Well, that guy could have been me : I had this happen with the shims on my 'riving knife' (in quotes because I have the BT20R, so you know the knife is just a joke) and I found out later when i saw the shards of the shims inside the saw-blade box.

      My solution to this was buying and using Loc-Tite (available in small tubes everywhere, even walmart). Nary a problem since then.
      It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
      - Aristotle

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      • LarryG
        The Full Monte
        • May 2004
        • 6693
        • Off The Back
        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

        #4
        Originally posted by siliconbauhaus
        I think my nuts would loosen up if the knife made contact with the blade
        If they didn't, some other body part in their vicinity surely would.

        My PM2000 has a cam-type lever that locks down the jaws holding the riving knife (one of Lee's shorty models, replacing the stock RK). Very secure, and very convenient when changing blades. I wonder whether similar levers might be adapted to the BT-type saws ...?
        Larry

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        • smc331
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 1016
          • Charlotte, NC, USA.
          • BT3100

          #5
          Lee,

          Thanks for the heads up!

          I'm thinking an event such as this could require changing of the shorts! (Nuts might not be the only thing loosening! )

          (Dang! Larry beat me to it!)
          Scott

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          • gsmittle
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 2790
            • St. Louis, MO, USA.
            • BT 3100

            #6
            Personally, I think an event like that would tighten my nuts up!

            I do check 'em from time to time.

            g.
            Smit

            "Be excellent to each other."
            Bill & Ted

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            • final_t
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 1626
              • .

              #7
              Odd, I did the nut replacement day 1 when I got my Shark years ago - I just thought everyone did it.
              I actually had more issues with the bolts that held the legs on, but couldn't find proper lock nuts for them (metric), and used Lock-Tite.

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              • crokett
                The Full Monte
                • Jan 2003
                • 10627
                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                I check mine ever since one backed off while I was making some dado cuts and got spit out by the dado blades. Lock nuts would be a good idea.
                David

                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                • footprintsinconc
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1759
                  • Roseville (Sacramento), CA
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  I had one of the nuts back off on the standard knife/blade guard assembly that came with the TS. didnt find out until i heard a loud noise. now i tighten the nuts, but didnt think of a locking nut!

                  thanks for the reminder.
                  _________________________
                  omar

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                  • Stytooner
                    Roll Tide RIP Lee
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 4301
                    • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    One thing the lock nut does is to allow you to only loosen them and then use the dado blade without having to tighten them back up. Then when you make the swap back to a knife, you just have to tighten the nuts.
                    This is a case where the user came up with a good idea that was easy to implement and may save someone lots of pain or worse. Something Ryobi should have done at the factory. Not only Ryobi, but many other saws would benefit from locking bolts and nuts from OEM.

                    I have studied a quick release some and it is very tight on this saw. All the parts would be very close to the top of the saw and the throat opening is really pretty narrow. I do make some QR brackets that fit the Dewalt 746. These OEM mounts are pretty similar to the Ryobi's. Two nuts. I will R&D one of these and see how it works.
                    Thanks Guys.

                    Lee

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                    • TB Roye
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2969
                      • Sacramento, CA, USA.
                      • BT3100

                      #11
                      Have to go to HD later today for something else will pick up a couple. Thanks for the heads up.

                      Tom

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                      • Scottydont
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 2359
                        • Edmonds, WA, USA.
                        • Delta Industrial Hybrid

                        #12
                        I never take mine for granted.

                        Scott
                        "The Laminate Flooring Benchtop Guy"

                        Edmonds WA

                        No coffee, no worky!

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                        • eezlock
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 997
                          • Charlotte,N.C.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          check you nuts often...

                          Originally posted by Stytooner
                          One thing the lock nut does is to allow you to only loosen them and then use the dado blade without having to tighten them back up. Then when you make the swap back to a knife, you just have to tighten the nuts.
                          This is a case where the user came up with a good idea that was easy to implement and may save someone lots of pain or worse. Something Ryobi should have done at the factory. Not only Ryobi, but many other saws would benefit from locking bolts and nuts from OEM.

                          I have studied a quick release some and it is very tight on this saw. All the parts would be very close to the top of the saw and the throat opening is really pretty narrow. I do make some QR brackets that fit the Dewalt 746. These OEM mounts are pretty similar to the Ryobi's. Two nuts. I will R&D one of these and see how it works.
                          Thanks Guys.

                          Lee, that is the type of riving knife mount I asked you about several months ago...you told me then you weren't aware of one at that time, hope you can design and make one of them for the BT3xxx saws, would be a nice upgrade for a somewhat pesky knife change operation. If all saw users would start complaining to the mfg.ers, they would probably get smart enough to figure it out and make one that fits their brand of saw and include it as a standard
                          item! eezlock

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                          • softop41
                            Established Member
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 470
                            • Plainfield, IL, USA.
                            • BT3100-1

                            #14
                            Actually, I think your nuts and your sphincter(sp?) would both be tightening if that happened!
                            Lee - thanks for the head's up! One more reason why the Shark has the best service reputation in the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            Jerry
                            Jerry
                            Making High Quality Sawdust in Northeast Plainfield

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                            • Slik Geek
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 706
                              • Lake County, Illinois
                              • Ryobi BT-3000

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Stytooner
                              One thing the lock nut does is to allow you to only loosen them and then use the dado blade without having to tighten them back up. Then when you make the swap back to a knife, you just have to tighten the nuts.
                              Alright, you sold me on the lock nut upgrade. Good observation. (I've never had the nuts come loose... yet)

                              Originally posted by Stytooner
                              These OEM mounts are pretty similar to the Ryobi's. Two nuts. I will R&D one of these and see how it works.
                              Count me in for purchasing your BT3000 riving knife quick release upgrade... when it becomes available...

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