Aw s&%#! Blew the motor on my BT3100!!!

[RHunter]

OK, so I was less than intelligent this weekend (must have been too stuffed with- well stuffing..)

I was ripping some rough Red Oak I chainsaw milled by hand last year (probably 8/4 to 10/4) and I stalled the blade. When I cut the power and removed the board, the motor started, but made a clicking sound and seemed like it would not get up to full speed.

I took the side covers off, removed the motor housing, and manually rotated the blade arbor- no clicks. Put it back together, clicks. Pulled the brushes, no clicks. Could be brushes...nope. Bottom line, there is one segment raised slightly on the commutator of the motor, enough so the brushes briefly lose contact with the commutator. Hence, the click as the brush is pushed back down and the motor not reaching full speed. Found the problem, that's the first part. Now...

New Armature $106.00 from Ryobi Parts Online- fine I can swing that...

But how do you remove the entire motor assembly to replace the armature?

I send an email to Ryobi Support, "I think I blew the armature out of my BT3100. I am thinking about ordering a replacement armature and brushes. Do you have instructions on how to remove the motor so I can replace it?"

Ryobi Supports give me... "Unfortunately no, we do not have any type of written directions for that detaled repair process, which should normally be handled by an authorized service dealer."

So now I am looking at labor and time in addition to the cost of the part.

Does someone here have instructions on how to change out their motor in the BT3100? I've looked at the belt changing directions here for the the BT3000- to those directions apply to the 3100 too??

I am looking for a DIY solution here as I can schedule my time to fix my saw vs. someone else who has other work orders ahead of mine. Of course I am in the middle of making clocks as Christmas Presents when I did this...

I'm willing to chalk all this up to my own stupidity (too fast a feed rate, should have put my 7-1/4" circular saw blade in instead of my 24T rip blade, etc, etc, etc) and pay the price for it...is there a DIY solution or should I just suck it up and take the saw to the service center??


Thanks folks for letting me vent at the very least and maybe get some ideas at the best...

[eezlock]

Bt motor

OK, so I was less than intelligent this weekend (must have been too stuffed with- well stuffing..)

I was ripping some rough Red Oak I chainsaw milled by hand last year (probably 8/4 to 10/4) and I stalled the blade. When I cut the power and removed the board, the motor started, but made a clicking sound and seemed like it would not get up to full speed.

I took the side covers off, removed the motor housing, and manually rotated the blade arbor- no clicks. Put it back together, clicks. Pulled the brushes, no clicks. Could be brushes...nope. Bottom line, there is one segment raised slightly on the commutator of the motor, enough so the brushes briefly lose contact with the commutator. Hence, the click as the brush is pushed back down and the motor not reaching full speed. Found the problem, that's the first part. Now...

New Armature $106.00 from Ryobi Parts Online- fine I can swing that...

But how do you remove the entire motor assembly to replace the armature?

I send an email to Ryobi Support, "I think I blew the armature out of my BT3100. I am thinking about ordering a replacement armature and brushes. Do you have instructions on how to remove the motor so I can replace it?"

Ryobi Supports give me... "Unfortunately no, we do not have any type of written directions for that detaled repair process, which should normally be handled by an authorized service dealer."

So now I am looking at labor and time in addition to the cost of the part.

Does someone here have instructions on how to change out their motor in the BT3100? I've looked at the belt changing directions here for the the BT3000- to those directions apply to the 3100 too??

I am looking for a DIY solution here as I can schedule my time to fix my saw vs. someone else who has other work orders ahead of mine. Of course I am in the middle of making clocks as Christmas Presents when I did this...

I'm willing to chalk all this up to my own stupidity (too fast a feed rate, should have put my 7-1/4" circular saw blade in instead of my 24T rip blade, etc, etc, etc) and pay the price for it...is there a DIY solution or should I just suck it up and take the saw to the service center??


Thanks folks for letting me vent at the very least and maybe get some ideas at the best...

RHunter, look in the archives page of this website. Sam and some of the others here have posted info. on removing motors, problems with them, etc.
This may a help in finding what you need, maybe a good source for buying another motor would be E-Bay, type in Bt3100 and you will see what is for sale there. I have seen motors listed there several times in the recent past.
Hope this helps, and sorry to hear about the motor trouble. eezlock

[agent511]

On the Member's classified sectionof this forum, I often see Bt3100's being stripped and sold for parts. Look there. ALso consider a 'wanted to buy' ad there for a motor .

I don't think it is worth the cost of parts and time to fix the motor, which if I am correct, is only a universal motor?

Consider putting the money into a better saw. Check Craig's list regularly, you will often see delta's and Ridgids in the $250 to $500 range.

[JR]

Consider putting the money into a better saw.

Isn't he a brave boy!?

[agent511]

Sorry, didn't mean to offend, wasn't thinking. But you know I am a darksider, so what would you expect?

[thestinker]

I would think you coud get a whole new motor for less than the 106 to repair your old one. I haven't priced them...but I wouldn't think that a replacment motor would be that hard to get.

[wardprobst]

You can buy a motor off Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ryobi-OEM-BT3000...QQcmdZViewItem
for about $180 including shipping. (no connection with seller)
Check the articles section for diving instructions.
HTH,
DP

[JSCOOK]

I've seen this problem (blown motor) posted a few times in the past and am assuming it's a common problem .... question I have is:

If this had happened while still under the warranty, would it be totally covered?

I bought the BORG additional extended 2 yr warranty on top of the original 2yrs for total of 4 years when I got my BT3100 ... just wondering if I should keep an eye out for a spare motor if the price is right?