pc compressor

**bfrikken** · 04-01-2008, 05:34 AM

This one?

http://www.amazon.com/C2002-WK-Oil-F...7049649&sr=8-1

**herb fellows** · 04-01-2008, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by bfrikken

This one?

http://www.amazon.com/C2002-WK-Oil-F...7049649&sr=8-1

yes, that's it.

**poolhound** · 04-01-2008, 09:59 AM

If you need the guns I think Rockler still has some of the PC 3 gun kits (recon'd) for $229. When I went in to my local one this week they had at least 4 of them.

**herb fellows** · 04-01-2008, 05:03 PM

Really, 3 recons for $229?! Considering the compressor without the handle comes with them brand new for $299, that doesn't seem like much of a deal. I would rather live with the compressor without the handle than give them $229 for recon guns, that seems really high.
For the life of me I can't figure out why they made two that seem identical in the first place. In the second place, don't you think someone would put one next to the other and have a 'duh' moment?! Why would anyone WANT one without a handle?? But if you buy the kit, that's exactly what you're getting. WIERD!

**poolhound** · 04-01-2008, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by herb fellows

Really, 3 recons for $229?! Considering the compressor without the handle comes with them brand new for $299, that doesn't seem like much of a deal. I would rather live with the compressor without the handle than give them $229 for recon guns, that seems really high.
For the life of me I can't figure out why they made two that seem identical in the first place. In the second place, don't you think someone would put one next to the other and have a 'duh' moment?! Why would anyone WANT one without a handle?? But if you buy the kit, that's exactly what you're getting. WIERD!

I know what you mean, however the way I understand it is that these items are NOT used, simply had some cosmetic issues or were returns. The set I got looked 100% perfect. The guns had obviously never fired any nails as the nail loading compartments in all three were clean as a whistle, not a spec of dust, grit, oil or any scratches. Once they have come back to a store or the manufacturer they can not by law resell them as new. They check them over, place a reconditioned tag on them and thats it. They have the identical warranty to the new ones. In my case I decided to save the $80 and put it towards another tool purchase.

I know its great to get a shiny brand new tool, I love them too. I have bought a mixture of new, recon'd and used tools. Although I have not had many problems at all I have had as many with stuff new out of the box as with the used or reconditioned variety.

**jhart** · 04-02-2008, 07:23 AM

The older style pancake compressors from PC also have a handle built into the top of the compressor, so it really isn't any big deal on the one Herb is showing. They carry quite nicely.

I agree with Poolhound that a lot of times the recond. units have never been used, or at least very little. If they've been opened and returned the retailers cannot sell them as new. $80 is $80 no matter how you cut it.
Just my .02 worth.

**radhak** · 04-02-2008, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by herb fellows

Really, 3 recons for $229?! Considering the compressor without the handle comes with them brand new for $299, that doesn't seem like much of a deal. I would rather live with the compressor without the handle than give them $229 for recon guns, that seems really high.
For the life of me I can't figure out why they made two that seem identical in the first place. In the second place, don't you think someone would put one next to the other and have a 'duh' moment?! Why would anyone WANT one without a handle?? But if you buy the kit, that's exactly what you're getting. WIERD!

But don't forget - that reconditioned kit has the 3 guns with it! The amazon kit does not. Whereas, I bought the accessory kit (that's shown in the amazon one) for $16 in HD

. The guns are much costlier, and hence make the deal sweeter.

Like Joe said, the other version also has a handle, it's just not as conspicuous as in this new version. I have the older one, and would prefer it. Actually, I bought a reconditioned kit from Amazon for $169 last year, with the PC and two nail guns, and I love it - nary a problem.

As of now, I see rockler has this deal : the compressor and a bradnail-gun for $129. I'd rather go (or wait) for something like this.

**herb fellows** · 04-03-2008, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by radhak

But don't forget - that reconditioned kit has the 3 guns with it! The amazon kit does not. Whereas, I bought the accessory kit (that's shown in the amazon one) for $16 in HD

. The guns are much costlier, and hence make the deal sweeter.

Like Joe said, the other version also has a handle, it's just not as conspicuous as in this new version. I have the older one, and would prefer it. Actually, I bought a reconditioned kit from Amazon for $169 last year, with the PC and two nail guns, and I love it - nary a problem.

As of now, I see rockler has this deal : the compressor and a bradnail-gun for $129. I'd rather go (or wait) for something like this.

That's a good deal, usually runs about $189 at HD.
I was just thinking that the 3 recon guns should be cheaper because the 3 guns brand new with a compressor are nominally $299. All things being equal, this means that if someone returned the entire kit, the company could sell the 'reconditioned' compressor alone at $70 and they would make the entire retail price back . But in fact, I've never seen anyone selling any 150 psi Porter Cable compressor for $70, more like double that.
So, if they are getting back an entire kit and selling the guns at $229 and the comprssor at $140, they are actually making more than selling it at regular retail brand new! Just doesn't seem right to me somehow.
Also, IMHO, they should have another category to put things under that were bought and returned without being used. As you say, yours appeared brand new and I have had the same happen to me, but I have also gotten some things that were at least beat up somewhat in appearance, if not function. 'Recon', IMO is just too broad a category. There are no guarantees that you are going to luck out and get one that was never used. 'You pays your money, you takes your chances', as they say.

**herb fellows** · 04-03-2008, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by jhart

The older style pancake compressors from PC also have a handle built into the top of the compressor, so it really isn't any big deal on the one Herb is showing. They carry quite nicely.

I agree with Poolhound that a lot of times the recond. units have never been used, or at least very little. If they've been opened and returned the retailers cannot sell them as new. $80 is $80 no matter how you cut it.
Just my .02 worth.

When you say the older ones had a handle, are you referring to the 'grey tops'? The only one with an obvious handle is the 2002. The 2006, which is the one that comes with the 3 gun kit doesn't have a handle. There's a sort of a space there on top that I lifted it by, but it seemed to be flexing all over the place, I was afraid it was going to crack the casing. I called PC and they said not to use that as a handle, it was not intended to be.
As I said, I just don't understand why you would make a 35 lb tool without a carrying handle, especially when you have another identical model that has one. I don't know which model came first, but putting a carrying handle on all of them seems a no-brainer to me.

**herb fellows** · 04-03-2008, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by radhak

But don't forget - that reconditioned kit has the 3 guns with it! The amazon kit does not. Whereas, I bought the accessory kit (that's shown in the amazon one) for $16 in HD

. The guns are much costlier, and hence make the deal sweeter.

Like Joe said, the other version also has a handle, it's just not as conspicuous as in this new version. I have the older one, and would prefer it. Actually, I bought a reconditioned kit from Amazon for $169 last year, with the PC and two nail guns, and I love it - nary a problem.

As of now, I see rockler has this deal : the compressor and a bradnail-gun for $129. I'd rather go (or wait) for something like this.

Yeah, comp and 2 guns for $169 is decent. Do you know the model # of the 'older' one that has the 'less conspicuous handle'?
See, I bought the 3 gun and compressor kit from HD, opened the box and was really bummed out to find the compressor without a handle. I pretty much have to haul this thing up from my basement every time I use it. I returned the kit and bought guns piece meal because the handle meant that much to me.

**radhak** · 04-03-2008, 07:52 AM

This is an image from the HD site, and my arrow shows what I use to lift/carry it. It's a sort of inlet made to allow your hand in, and seems made just for lifting it.

I have not seen a PC pancake compressor without this 'handle', and I have always found it very strong. Now, does it make it very easy to carry 35 pounds to carry up 3 flights of stairs? Not really, but that's another story.

**herb fellows** · 04-03-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by radhak

This is an image from the HD site, and my arrow shows what I use to lift/carry it. It's a sort of inlet made to allow your hand in, and seems made just for lifting it.

I have not seen a PC pancake compressor without this 'handle', and I have always found it very strong. Now, does it make it very easy to carry 35 pounds to carry up 3 flights of stairs? Not really, but that's another story.

Ok, for what it's worth, that's the bit I was talking about that I thought was a handle. I called pc to make sure, they said no, the case might crack, not meant as a handle. If you've been using it that way for a while, might just be a case of them covering their butts, but they did say no.

**poolhound** · 04-03-2008, 07:13 PM

That has to be ridiculous. IF its not a handle then what the heck is it. This is a small PORTABLE compressor. How else are you supposed to pick it up. I am sure everybody uses that to pick it up with. I dont know about PC covering their butts as it doesnt seem necessary as their heads are up there

**herb fellows** · 04-04-2008, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by poolhound

That has to be ridiculous. IF its not a handle then what the heck is it. This is a small PORTABLE compressor. How else are you supposed to pick it up. I am sure everybody uses that to pick it up with. I dont know about PC covering their butts as it doesnt seem necessary as their heads are up there

rotfl!!! Gotta protect that head!!

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