Bosch 1587 down to $104 at the Jungle

[Stormbringer]

Just spotted the Bosch 1587 top handle sabre saw marked down to $104 as part of Amazon's weekend sale. This was "the" model to get before the 1590 came out with the blade guide feature (which I have and love btw). Still, if you need a saw that screams quality, you cannot go wrong with any of the Bosch models...especially at this price.

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1587AVSP...DKIKX0DER&s=hi


Greg

[ryan.s]

I was wondering when they were going to drop the price on this jigsaw again. I remember last year the price was sub $100 for a short time and I missed out on it.

Is it worth paying the extra $60 and getting the 1590 instead?

[LinuxRandal]

I bought it recently at a damaged freight store. It was NIB and great. I read the blade switching instructions on Amazon, and can honestly say, if the blade changing is it, there is NO reason to spend the $60 extra, when that buys a decent number of blades.

I do NOT regret my decission to keep this.

http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=26521

[T-Bone]

I agree with LinuxRandal. I got the 1587 and figured out the blade changes in about 5 minutes. Just read the instructions and it eventually becomes clear and after that, it's easy. If that is the main difference, don't spend the extra $60.

[kramer katt]

There is more difference to the 1590 than just the blade change.
the 5.0 amp motor is upped to 6.4 and I also believe that the 1590 is still made in Switzerland not China as the 1587s now are.
Oddly tho the Craftsman version was made in Switzerland so at $22 that may be the best gloat of all. Sorry to say I missed it at 4 stores I searched.
kk

[TimInChicago]

Pulled the Trigger

I think this is too good of a deal to pass on considering the quality of review this saw gets. I'm confident I can figure out the blade change system easily. It's worth pointing out that you get a bonus set of blades for this $104 price as well, so... it's all good. I've been looking at the 1591 for awhile but when this deal showed up, I could not justify the extra $. We all have great tools that have been replaced by new models and we still love the great tool. Point is, there will always be a newer model but that doesn't change the great value proposition of a tool with the reputation the 1587 has. ;-) Anyway, looks like the UPS guy will be back on my porch again next week! Thanks for the post.

[linear]

Holy Cow! I added it to cart and it showed at 175 bux. I backtracked and tried again and got one for the 104 deal (I've never checked out faster). It must be the tail end of this deal so do not hesitate.

[ryan.s]

Just ordered it. Thanks for posting greg and the link linuxrandal.

[Jeffrey Schronce]

There is more difference to the 1590 than just the blade change.
the 5.0 amp motor is upped to 6.4 and I also believe that the 1590 is still made in Switzerland not China as the 1587s now are.
Oddly tho the Craftsman version was made in Switzerland so at $22 that may be the best gloat of all. Sorry to say I missed it at 4 stores I searched.
kk

Additionally the 1590 has better blade tracking. If you use a jigsaw A LOT then the 1590 may be worth it. My first tools were CMS and the 1587. I did have a couple problems over the years with the blade changing mechanism.
I would not accept a Chinese made 1587.

[Stormbringer]

On the Fence? Read these for some additional insight:

http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...ght=Bosch+1590

http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...ght=Bosch+1590

http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...ght=Bosch+1590


I don't know if the 1587 has the nifty blade guide feature referred to as the "precision control guides" but these are an awsome feature to have. They really prevent the blade from wandering and keep it dead straight. $104 is tough to pass up though.

[davidtu]

Is the anti-China sentiment a suspicion or is it established that the production of this tool is not as good / reliable as it used to be? Have tolerances changed? Materials?

Thanks for your thoughts!

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Is the anti-China sentiment a suspicion or is it established that the production of this tool is not as good / reliable as it used to be? Have tolerances changed? Materials?

Thanks for your thoughts!

As with most things it depends. This conversation can start getting pretty ugly on other forums. Bascially the move to Asian production of tools initially went to Taiwan. Production was a heck of a lot cheaper than US. Due to economic and political changes China became the low cost leader in production. Prices had been drastically reduced in moving production to Taiwan. When production moved to China costs were even further surpressed. Companies had to make decisions on quality, etc. I firmly believe that there are companies with strict production standards that are getting wonderful product from China such as Grizzly. On the other hand, a Harbor Freight will not have the same production standards and requirements as Grizzly. The question then becomes what standard would Bosch require of the production facility? Bosch is known for high quality. However, they wouldn't be the first company to throw their standards out the window to make a few bucks!
Bosch does have a 30 day free look on a lot of products and their warrenty work has been great for me in the past.

[ryan.s]

Additionally the 1590 has better blade tracking. If you use a jigsaw A LOT then the 1590 may be worth it. My first tools were CMS and the 1587. I did have a couple problems over the years with the blade changing mechanism.
I would not accept a Chinese made 1587.

Where are these made normally, or what country of mfg should I be looking for?

Thanks!

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Where are these made normally, or what country of mfg should I be looking for?

Thanks!

Personally, when I think of the industry leading Bosch Jigsaw I think Swiss made!

[ryan.s]

Personally, when I think of the industry leading Bosch Jigsaw I think Swiss made!

Does Swiss made apply to all Bosch tools or just the jigsaw? Just curious about the history of what is made where. I just checked my two other Bosch tools and sliding MS is made in Taiwan and the router only says "assembled in the US".